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Comment Re:I'd shake anyone's hand that joined (Score 2) 388

That was then. This is now. Most likely they spied on the USSR, and those people are retired or dead by now. Also, I'd like some verifiable proof, after all they are an agency that sees no need to tell the truth, before I go all gushy on how the agency of lies. If the proof shows that some people there had been amazing in the past then I would be sad for that since the NSA would have fallen since then, if not it's just gone from ineffective to horrible and ineffective.

Comment It's about control. (Score 1) 276

Aaron Swartz when talking about the defeat of SOPA clearly pointed out that Congress is about control. They will not give up invading people's rights. Somehow we do not living exactly in a representative democracy. Unless we are totally paranoid self hating prison guards, this is not a government for an by the people.

Comment Or (Score 3, Funny) 410

Hi. You're going to call off your rigorous investigation. You're going to publicly state that there is no underground group. Or... these guys are going to take your balls. They're going to send one to the New York Times, one to the LA Times press-release style. Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... fuck with us.

Comment Soon it will acceptable... (Score 0) 438

One day soon, if this form of pre-crime is put into use, a the police will gun down a person and it will be judged reasonable force, because they had reason to suspect the person was dangerous due to the "fact" that they would soon commit a crime. in these crazy days when the government takes private property for profit without a court order or due process(http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/10/04/ij-challenges-%E2%80%9Cpolicing-for-profit%E2%80%9D-in-massachusetts/), where the government can threaten a person with a violet SWAT style raid for having a health lemon tree in their home(http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/09/15/usda-seizes-1000-personal-lemon-trees-threatens-fed-raid/), where the government contends that you don't own your property(http://libertylog.org/?p=2837), and that you have no rights to food, health, or to contract(http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/fda-you-have-no-natural-right-to-food-health-or-private-contracts/), what do you expect. People are asleep. In the land of the free you don't have as many rights as you think. Of course they wouldn't try the same thing with large corporations of people with money or power. It's only the little people who get stepped on. At least a few have balls and they are in NY right now. What are you doing for the people who are actually doing something? They are fighting for your rights for your rights and freedom from a government controlled more and more by large corporations and less and less by, and for, the people.

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