Where was your outrage then?

Hypocrite.

LK

That still assumes the violation is noticed and acted upon.

Seriously, how likely do you think it will be for a former employer to keep track of their ex-employees so closely that this would be a serious issue?

Contesting it in court assumes it becomes an issue.

Far easier to simply ignore it, not reveal it to a future employer and assume Amazon never finds out that a someone in the bowels of their company ended up in the bowels of another company.

Your hypocrisy is strong.

The bakery chose to not make a birthday cake for an innocent child.

Where was your outrage then?

LK

The problem with segregation wasn't that it was allowed to happen.
The problem with segregation was that it was legally mandated.

Haven't you ever seen the movies where there were police officers enforcing segregated dance floors at concerts?

If segregation was happening by choice, it would simply be a free market issue and people could vote with their dollars. Segregation was legally mandated and it wasn't optional.

"If I were in the south and a southerner didn't want me to eat in his restaurant and I forced my way in and then let him go back in his kitchen and prepare some coffee for me to drink, I'd consider myself insane to drink it." - Malcolm X

LK

You are mistaken.

What prompted this law was a bakery in Oregon was driven into bankruptcy because they declined to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding.

They were willing to sell the couple a different cake but that wasn't acceptable to the couple. They wanted to compel the bakery to make their wedding cake or face financial penalties.

THIS is why religious freedom laws are needed.

LK

Did these people sue when the bakery refused to sell them a cake?

Where was your outrage then?

LK

I remember when this happened and none of the hypocrites who are against this law said a thing in support of these people who wanted nothing more than to buy their child a birthday cake.

LK

I want to double down upon what you are saying as you know far better than the parent what is going on.

Just today I had sub-sub contractors from Comcast trying to fix the cable from the box across the street to my home for an issue I first reported the issue in mid-December but after a few months of nonsense things finally got worked out.

After first having a visit from a person who appeared to be a Comcast employee declaring the connection between my home and the distribution box across the street bad (I was seeing .1 mbs upload(should have been closer to 10mbs) yet semi-normal downloads), he wrote it up for replacement... and so began a multi-month process.

A week later received a note from a sub-contractor of Comcast (though with the Comcast letterhead on the door hanger and the sub-contractors name in the fine print) which said my cable needed to be replaced. Over the next couple of months I'd call them to check on the status with the work order # on the tag as things slowly worked their way through the Comcast and local city bureaucracies.

Eventually they told me that the work had been issued to a 'sub-contractor' (really a sub-sub-contractor) who took about a month to get things worked out as well between the city and them (which included two paintings of the paths of various utility lines under and around the street (much to the annoyance of the neighbors who didn't like the paint on their property)).

Finally the day of repair arrived (today) and they did their digging... alas they hit a rock when tunneling under the driveway of the neighbor in front of me (and right next to the distribution box) so they had to fill in most of what they did (amazingly professional in this way) and say that another team from the same company would have to come out in a week with a different boring machine to complete the work.

The pathetic thing about this whole process was that as far as Comcast is concerned, my issue has been resolved months ago by virtue of it being sent to an outside vendor... in the close out email even citing the fact that my signal strength had returned to normal (hint: it hadn't fully).

There is a part of me that is considering dropping Comcast service once this whole repair effort is complete (costing them $5-10k)... however they (unfortunately) provide the fastest internet for the price... when it works.

Businesses, however, are not people

Why so few people have read and/or understood the I will never understand as it says in part:

the words “person” and “whoever” include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals;

Not really, you'd still get your name checked off on the voter rolls when you get your ballot and someone latter aggregates the whole thing. Biggest difference is that it would make it slightly less harder to vote for someone else (to prevent their vote) as you might end up being the second person to ask... Vs knowing ahead of time who isn't likely.

Not only did you not read the article I had mentioned previously which pointed to people ending up in jail (even if for brief periods) due to debts, but you didn't even read the one you linked to!

However, there are a few situations when you might face jail time in connection with a debt.

The funny thing is that it even goes on to name some of them! See that first one... about violating a court order? That normally is referred to a contempt, and getting locked up for a day or 90 is one of the possible punishments.

I'm still waiting for someone to cite something which calls what I'm saying bullshit... odd that? Oh right... /.

Getting a contempt order is by no means an automatic thing... you first have to go back to the judge and inform them of the violation, maybe even give a chance to the violator an opportunity to respond... it's then up to the judge if and how they will proceed... in fact this is the same process under which (then) President Bill Clinton was held in contempt. Judicial notices can be fun.

Same goes for a writ of mandamus... once you have a judges order in hand against a civil servant who is refusing to do their job things tend to get moving as a contempt order is always a risk.

Citation?

I love it when I challenge someone for a citation and the first response is someone demanding a citation from me (without any of their own).

You can't be held in contempt for not showing up to a civil hearing, you just lose by default.

While there should have been an or in there... and failure to appear is a valid cause to be arrested in some states... such as Minnesota: http://www.startribune.com/inv...

I've a friend in California whose ex was issued a bench warrant for failing to show up to a child support hearing (there had been a long series of them and he missed two in a row).

And you won't go to jail for not paying a judgement,

You clearly don't know how much power a judge has.

Don't believe me? Try this:

1. You give me your email address
2. I send you an email, in response you send me a signed and notarized document promising to pay me $50,000 within 30 days as a thanks for the email.
3. Fail to pay me within 30 days.
4. After multiple attempts by me to collect on this debt, I go to court and get a judgment against you to pay me the full amount of debt within 30 days (I'll skip the interest in this case).
5. Fail to pay me within the next 30 days.
6. I return to the judge and tell them that you still have not complied with their order.
7. They give you one last chance to comply within the next 7 days.
8. 7 days elapse without payment
9. Judge holds you in contempt.

See how easy that was?

if you fail to repay $1000 the debt collectors come for you, your credit history is wiped and you could even go to jail.

Citation?

The debt collectors actions are civil, not criminal and have no power of their own to have you arrested or jailed.

Now, if the debt collector sues you in court, you fail to appear or fail to pay when the judge has ordered you to repay promptly and do not... then you can get hit with a contempt of court charge which could result in jail time... though this is not unique to debt collections, any engagement with a judge can have the same outcome.