Comment Re:Pointless (Score 1) 755
It takes real effort to support multiple init systems, so the question becomes, is it worth it?
Define "worth". I mean, can you put a dollar value on not fragmenting the whole Linux community, for instance?
The people actually doing the work in many distributions don't think it is.
Some of the people. The Debian decision was only carried by the chairman's casting vote. So in that case at least people doing the actual work seem pretty damn undecided to me.
You can either work to change that by putting in your own time/money, try to convince them that it is worth the time, or just use systemd.
*Yawn* Or I can use Gentoo or Slackware or (pretty soon) Devuan. Currently I'm using Gentoo and a systemd-free Wheezy. I do hope you're not going to tell me that disqualifies me from having an opinion here?
If systemd is as good as its supporters suggest, then it'll become widely adopted without all this ballyhoo. Conversely, if it's failings are severe enough that it can't gain widespread acceptance without politicising the entire debate, then I don't want it anywhere near me.
This is exactly what is happening. Distribution maintainers are choosing to use systemd because they find it the best of the options available.
Well, except for the whole "without all this ballyhoo", since that is definitely happening. And without the implied unanimity of opinion on the part of the developers: see the previous point about Debian. So, you know, no that isn't exactly what's happening. Sorry.
Also, once again, the only people I see making this political are those who seem to find systemd emotionally repulsive.
It takes two to make for a political debate. We can argue about who started it if you like, but it still takes two. Like the two of us, for instance. Now personally I don't think that either of us are aguing based on primarily emotional or aesthetic grounds. Of course, we can talk about that a bit more if you want.
But if you want a purely technical argument, immature software still under heavy development, lacking an interface spec should be sufficient for most reasonable people.
All of the arguments I've seen in favor of systemd are purely of the "it works better and has more features" variety.
Meh. There's also been plenty along the lines of "systemd just works and if you're too stupid to see it then that's your problem because it's already been decided by people far more intelligent than you so just sit down and shut up already".
If fact, absent the rudeness, that's pretty much the substance of your own argument, if you don't mind me saying so.