The same people and companies were involved, but there was separation as I understood it between the black side stuff and the civilian stuff. My father made a comment to the effect of, the classified stuff is better than the civilian stuff, gyroscope wise. Star trackers and such are probably not much different.

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Dammit. now I'm gonna need more HD storage. Thanks?

Is with the towing trailer set. Or the pickup truck set. Try backing up a grade with a loaded pickup or with a trailer with a stick vs an automatic. The torque converter is a beautiful piece of engineering.

With a stick, you'll burn the clutch trying to creep with it. With an auto, you get inching capability.

In my automobile, I prefer a stick for reliability and control. I think autos have become more reliable than sticks today however.

My father worked at NASA for 30 years. He was involved in guidance and navigation. Worked on the IU on the Saturn V.

In the '90s, he told me the only thing classified at NASA was the vehicle destruct system details. Don't want someone intentionally blowing up a manned rocket on its proper course. He said that they were denied access to classified gyroscope materials from the spy satellite and ICBM world. Other secrets may have fallen under "trade secret" status as NASA contracted the building of most things.

However, just the other day I downloaded information about the F-1 rocket engine. At one time the documents I downloaded were classified. I guess they didn't want the Soviets to learn more about our tech.

Then the DART mission occurred. Within the report, there was information that might make it easier for bad actors (terrorists/states) to use GPS navigation for munitions. That information is restricted as is some more recent information.

Ms. Hilton is neither super model or porn star. To use a car analogy, I'd say she's a Honda popular and reliable (in her own way), but I hate to insult Honda in that way. A Saturn would be more appropriate. Comes from big money, cheap and plastic. Poseur.

Yeah, burying waste and information will never, ever come back to haunt them.

It is an environmental time bomb. And there is plenty of blame to be spread around.

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Would relatives of the assassinated person have standing to sue or challenge the law?

Yep, remember it. In 1996 in a civil suit, a jury found that the city had violated the constitutional rights of the members of MOVE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_Process_Clause

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantive_due_process

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights

True, the constitution doesn't define what "law" is, but the Supreme court is the ultimate arbiter of the law of the US. And while "war" might be a mitigating factor, secret tribunals are not permitted.

I think that due process includes the right to confront your accuser in court and a trial by a jury of your peers. Not by getting the right signature from someone above your rank.

Point taken, I was thinking the same thing. However, it is possible for hydrazine to "freeze" at aerospace temperatures, correct? We justified a shoot down USA-193 on the basis of its massive load of hydrazine, I recall some mention of some of it possibly being frozen.

They are nasty chemicals, just keeping that system under control is difficult.

That isn't a backup rover, it is an engineering rover with identical hardware sans the RTG power source. It is here to be used to figure out problems with the actual rover on mars. Kinda hard to send out a technician to mars to troubleshoot. It isn't a backup in any sense of the word.

In addition to the chain link fencing, there are four or five tensioned steel cables on the lower portion to give additional reinforcement.

Whoosh! Or simply a bad joke. Was going for the +1 Funny