lol

Bullshit.

Everyone I know that is either (1)uninterested in the systemd debate, or (2) actually in favor of systemd is (3) a completely incompetent hack in most areas that (4) have mostly bad ideas generally.

The perspective that thought NetworkManager / Avahi should be a default 'on' in a server install is so completely fucked up that it shouldn't be trusted on any topic.

I prefer to call it Poettering Operating System/Linux

Well said! Competent people with the authority to make their own choices DON'T CHOOSE RHEL.

No you're wrong. We *already* know shell scripting, and if you want to be a sysadmin or work in ops you *must* know shell scripting. Using systemd doesn't make the 'must know shell scripting' requirement go away.

*Everyone* I know in this industry is anti-systemd.

It is heresy to even suggest that there are biology driven gender specific behaviors. Everything bad in the world is because boys are socialized incorrectly. Don't worry though, social science ( nee studies ) professors are retooling our schools as we speak!

I'll just leave this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

No evidence required. If you are making the reverse claim, that women are just as interested in math and physics as men, then evidence is required.

IOW:
Men and Women are different biologically. Doesn't mean we can't socialize men into wearing skirts, but it DOES mean we cannnot *socialize* men into having the same ability to empathize that women have. This has been accepted as fact since before the first beer was brewed. The extraordinary claim is nurture, not nature and so far all I've seen is giant leaps of logic and circular reasoning to back up that claim. Most of the nature crowd just keeps repeating that their ideology is "well grounded in science" as if we will all accept it eventually. Oh, and write blogs intended to discredit actual "I don't have an agenda" science. When they're cornered in debate with an actual intelligent person they fall back on "well, that's not relevant here" bullshit.

The fact that they get so furious when you don't believe with them is like a big "I joined a cult" sign.

The foreign subsidiary being a P.O. box in a country that doesn't tax them.

It's a corruption. They get loopholes that allow them to get out of taxes as long as their money stays overseas, but then every 10 years or so we have a "tax holiday".

They belong in jail.

That pat answer again? Apples and Oranges...

Get this into your head: The fucking kernel is the fucking kernel alright? It is one fucking thing. Yes, people refer to it as a "monolithic kernel" to contrast with a "microkernel" but , it is one fucking thing. Got it? Next time someone complains about the monolithic design of systemd and you feel the words "but the kernel..." welling up in your throat, just slap yourself until you start to remember words like "context" ok?

--*I*-- use cgroups copiously and will not use systemd, so, not really plus for systemd...maybe a "not minus".

mod up please, I'm so tired of seeing that irrelevant myth blog trotted out as if it's a trump card.

No one thinks udev is PID 1 , but there are people who think POS is so integrated it might as well be. Calling udev PID 1 is just people trying to win an argument. Like "debunking" a bunch of "myths" no one holds while ignoring real and valid complaints. It's about WINNING for them.

"Systemd is what happens when inexperienced people with high IQ fly off on a tagent without engineering ability."

Exactly. There is no doubt that he's a very smart person who can code, but his ideas suck. Dependencies, political pressure, and inexperienced young windows refugees are why we are where we are now...

"Myth: systemd makes it impossible to run syslog"

Stupid. NO ONE was saying that so what's the point of debunking this non-existent myth? Journald is a bad idea and that's not a myth it's a FACT.