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Comment Re:Teddy Roosevelt rides again! (Score 1) 318

Yet somehow, to Randian Republicans, requiring more money to insure the increasing wealth of the wealthy than the constant wealth of the poor is a bad thing if it's done by taxes.

You're right. I'm not sure anyone thought of that. Also, you might want to have your head examined. Its like you had five ideas and face rolled your keyboard to put them down.

Comment Re:Randian Dumbfuckery (Score 1) 318

You entirely missed my point. Regulating car companies to provide seat belts and making it mandatory for people to use them are two entirely different things. There is only one base type of government, from a philosophical perspective, that allows for regulating what one does to oneself (ie it effects no one but them), Totalitarianism (Authoritarianism).

Also, check your facts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

Comment Re:Randian Dumbfuckery (Score 1) 318

Regulations on seat belts did cause accident rates to rise...

Not to mention, where does the government get off on telling people what to do in their own automobile? This coming from a constant seat belt wearer. Regulations telling people what to do to protect themselves from themselves is always a bad slippery slope. Just saying, that's a bad example.

Comment Re:May you choke on your own words (Score 1) 318

Its not hard to except that. All great things build upon each other. Its the way it was said. Even reading the direct quote isn't too bad, but there is the subtle overtone that the government was responsible for all that success. Then watching the video, its the brash, cocky nature and tone of Obama that I found the most off putting. He comes across with this "You need us and you need me" tone that made me sick, and I liked most of his other speeches for there oratory prowess.

Comment Re:Your justice system is flawed, too. (Score 1) 1081

You are assigning causation where there is only correlation. That is a common logical fallacy. I am saying there is a correlation between being educated, being wealthy and discussing ethical theory. You are saying because someone is wealthy and well educated, they created ethical theory to maintain wealth.

You are inferring causation where there is none, and it seems to be based on your predisposition to dislike people with money.

Comment Re:Your justice system is flawed, too. (Score 1) 1081

This is a huge oversimplification of many concepts stemming from your predisposed views of the world.

Foremost, amoralism is systemic to the human condition. Rich people, poor people average people, all have the capacity for moral and immoral acts.

Secondly, ethics is always based on what someone else deems as right and wrong. Ethics is the code of conduct between one person and everyone else. Even if you decided what was right and wrong, the rest of the world would be subject to the right and wrong decided by someone else. It is a group effort.

Lastly, classical ethics for the most part was created by the rich and powerful. But that is because they were the educated, not because they were trying to take over the world. The uneducated, even today, don't sit around thinking about the fundamentals of ethical theory.

Comment Re:Your justice system is flawed, too. (Score 1) 1081

There are many classical ethical philosophies, which you clearly don't understand. Social contract isn't then end all be all of theories. If you warp one philosophy you tend to end up actually using another or a blend of several. Our current state is a mix of egoism, social contract and utilitarianism, all poorly implemented.

Blame the theory all you want, but it's only a fool who blames his tools.

Comment Re:Your justice system is flawed, too. (Score 1) 1081

What have you been smoking? Social contract theory is a philosophy; it's an idea. It was not perpetrated by some Illuminati conspiracy theory to keep people in check. Even within your own argument, you bash social contract theory in one paragraph, then praise its merits in the next based on the implementing class.

If you want to argue over the merits of an ethical philosophy, have some idea of what you are talking about: http://www.philosophybasics.co...

If you want to complain about the overbearing police state the US has become, that's ok to. But don't string big words together if you don't know what they mean.

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