what side do you want?

atfer it does you will go to school for 2-4 years to get a piece of paper that says you know it.

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and then we can forget about your release date

I did not say just HS.

I said HS + mix of community college classes / tech schools / trade school / learning skills on the job.

For some people the full college setting is to much up front and or loaded with skill gaps.

but the issues with some of the college system is that the time tables do not fit in that well with working pros. The tech schools / trade schools / community colleges do fit in better.

Not all tech guys want to be in management and there are people who not cut out for it and end up being peters.

Tech / IT needs an apprenticeship system that can tech real skills, have on the job / hands on learning / and at least some oversight.

We need some kind of badges system for education that can fit into stuff that the older education is a poor fit for.

Out site of the USA the cost of university is much lower and then have alt's for people who are a better fit in trades like learning

Employers used to train people now they want schools that are not setup to do that kind of learning to teach skills that should be in a tech / trade school. But they don't like them to much and they can't use the people loaded with skill gaps coming out of some non tech schools.

education also has to much theory and non coding jobs really don't need years of CS with big skill gaps.

http://articles.chicagotribune...

if they want to set a min level without the high cost of college and then they can take people from the teach / trades / learn on there own.

college does not tech the right skills needed to do jobs now days. We need to have alts that take less time and give people skills that they need.

For IT jobs HS + on the job and or with an trade / tech / CC is all that should be needed.

need to crack down on the Russian government and others who just about look the other way.

the outsourcing / IT / PHB can't pay for that.

and what about PHB driven IT rules that you need bypass just in some cases to have some then other then IE (hope it's not some old build) much less an mac, some non windows XP or 7 system.