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Comment Re:Not so much, maybe. (Score 1) 986

No, it would be more like you put the dollar into a billfold, then took out 10... put one back in, got another 10 out... and then did this for weeks. At some point you have to think to yourself "Ok, either this really is a magic billfold, or he is very good packing dollars into wallets.

Or... he's using slight-of-hand tricks to make me think he's a) only putting one dollar in, b) that there really were 10 coming out, and c) that the 10 came out of the wallet.

[Watch Teller (of Penn and Teller) create an unlimited number of coins from nothing and put them in a small metal bucket.]

And, by an amazing coincidence, these are the things that people are questioning about Rossi's device and this "analysis". A) Was the input power properly measured (no), B) was the output properly measured (no), and C) were other (conventional but hidden) sources of input energy properly excluded (no).

Comment Re:Hoax (Score 1) 986

Given a choice between making $400k a year

Read it again, that $400k is just the first year. Then $800k, then $1.6m, then $3.2m... Until he's made his billions of dollars.

If you are capable of making the first plant (as Rossi did), you are capable of earning enough income from it to make the second, and so on, until you've made enough money to sate your appetite and decide to just give the design away. But it's better than that, because if you are actually selling electricity, not magic beans, it makes your magic beans a hell of a lot more credible. [For example, Rossi claimed (early on) that he was using his device to heat his "factory", precisely to give himself that kind of credibility.]

Can't get on the grid due to {conspiracy}. No problem. You sell on-site off-grid power to individual large customers, if you can cut their power costs they'd jump at the chance. Aluminium smelters spend a fortune on electricity, mining companies spend a fortune on fuel for remote power generation... (That said, you might pick one or two clients as demonstrators and offer them free power. That also lets you work out the bugs in the system before you have contractual obligations.) A decade later, you're powering everything from Google server farms to the International Space Station. And at that point, if you are not wealthy enough to get a licence to build grid-connected plants in any market that has commercial power, you're doing it wrong.

But there's even more money to be made. In the paper, the isotopic composition of the post-experiment "ash" from his ecats included several isotopes that are extremely valuable in their own right ($20k/oz.) There's one that is a beta-emitter that (if it could be produced cheaply) would power compact "nuclear batteries" for anything from laptops to space probes, for applications too small for the ecat-based system. [At least one lithium isotope is "dual use", so selling that requires some extra paper-work. But others are no harder than selling smoke-detectors.]

Right now he could not only be selling power, but also be selling rare isotopes, and developing other product lines not directly connected with the ecats made from the "ash" of his power plants. (And the good thing about the beta-voltaic battery is that not only are the fairly simple, the technology is off-patent. Doesn't matter if someone reverse-engineers your design, unless they have a source of cheap beta-emitter. So you can sell the "batteries" wherever you can get appropriate licensing, without worrying about IP theft.)

And every one of these things does more to demonstrate the reality of his device than getting a few gullible patsies to write stare at a glowing rod for 30 hours.

Comment Re:I have no garage you insensitive clod (Score 1) 151

IIRC Bill&Ted's excellent time machine didn't actually fly and didn't do anything special with space, such as being bigger on the inside. (I suppose it is in itself compact, therefore saved space, compared to, say, a flying Delorean. But that's not the meaning I took from the original comment.)

Comment Re:VeloCopter (Score 1) 151

Shockingly there are also places you can't drive to.

However, most SF "flying car" scenarios assume we'll adapt new infrastructure around VTOL capability. For example, downtown in large cities.

Until we develop anti-gravity, no "flying car" will truly qualify for the SF image. Drivable-planes like Terrafugia and clones still need runways. Moller's Skycar, even if it wasn't a scam, wouldn't be allowed in real world cities. (BTW, it also isn't drivable, yet few would say it's not a "flying car" (again if it wasn't a scam.))

My point is that you're being pedantic and stupid. (My own pedantry is much more sophisticated.)

Comment Re:Missing option (Score 4, Informative) 151

Moller Skycar is a long time investment scam. The "working" version has never flown high enough to clear its ground-effect after 20 years of "demonstrations", because of, ummm, "insurance", which somehow doesn't affect any other experimental and novelty aircraft designer.

Skyrider is a straight rip-off of Moller's design, and purely a paper-plane.

Xplorair PX200 is more about its completely new propulsion system. If the propulsion worked as advertised, it would be a useful product for conventional aircraft. That the inventor is using it to get investors for a flying-car is a pretty big indicator that there's nothing there.

Terrafugia and Aeromobil are actually flying. Which is kind of impressive. Both are just folding-wing planes awkwardly squeezed into a vaguely roadable shape. But, honestly, you really don't want to drive your fragile aircraft on a road.

More realistically, if you want to fly without getting a full licence, buy an ultralight, paraglider, or gyrocopter.

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