No kidding. The only perfect security just happens to lock out all legitimate users as well. So long as some one can access the info, then some one else can find a way in as well, the more people that need to be able to access it, the more ways in there will be. It doesn't help that traditionally, security tends to be the lowest item on the list. Need to save money, most companies will skimp on security before they will skimp on janitorial. Guess they want to be sure the place looks nice for any one that breaks in. Same goes for computer systems. The order of importance seems to be, Make it look nice, Make it simple to use, Make it work, and make it secure. Sadly, it pays off to work it that way. If it looks good, people assume any problem with it is their own fault and not the program. Make it simple and most people don't realize just how few options they have and just how little they can really do with it. Make it work, well, folks expect problems and blame them selves, so we can fix the bugs later. Make it secure, but don't do anything that prevents to legitimate users from doing what they should... Good luck on that. Best example of how people react to a company making an attempt at doing the right thing and getting hammered for it is, and I /really/ hat to say this, but... Microsoft and their access controls in Vista/win7. They started to do it right and put in real security, and people went ballistic. Problem is, people didn't get pissed that it only locked the user out and let hackers through, they got pissed that it asked them before just doing things. Now, I'm not saying it couldn't be done better, it could have. But look at what people complained about, 'it's in the way', not 'it's insecure'. Right there shows why things will never be secure. People want convenience, not security, and people are the ones that pay for the work.

You know, it's things like that that tend to set me off. Open information is essential to freedom, and the US found it quite delightful when WL exposed other countries. But now that it's coming to light that our own country has a lot to hide, it must be stopped? I don't think so. Get the information out there, shame the ones knowingly acting dishonestly and work to let them know it is not acceptable. People in power are always willing to bend the rules for what they feel is 'good reason'. Problem is, that so called good reason tends to expand quickly. I don't know what the fix is for the situation, but I do know that it will involve a lot more sites like WL. If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear. Or so the government tells us. Interesting how that doesn't seem to go both ways, that needs to change, in a big way.

Heh, I remember getting into MUSH's and MUD's back when 2400 bps was a good speed. Spent more time on those games then a full time job. Folks said I had no life, but they were wrong. I had a lot of them. So what if they were all virtual? These days I can't spend as much time on them, but I still play a few MU*s. To me it's like reading a book rather then seeing a movie. I don't need some one to show flashy graphics. My mind can fill that in on it's own from a bit of text. Heh, I feel like I should be making a comment about how we had to use raw telnet, up hill, both ways, and we liked it. Heh. Gods, I'm getting old... And get off my lawn...

This is already the reality in many places. What would be nice is if we could also do it back to the people monitoring us. It's already unbalanced in that they don't face the same penalties we do, but to then add in a law forbidding the gathering of evidence of abuse and still taking only their word on it? Doesn't sound like a a reasonable thing. Then add in to it that the police are filming you, and if they don't like what the vid shows they have the ability to vanish it, and seldom face any action for it. Yea, some get nailed if they do it too much and too many people find out, but with all the horror stories out there about abuse from police and evidence that vanishes, wouldn't it be nice to have more evidence? Police say to me, if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear, so I now say to them. If you have nothing to hide, why do you fear?

While what you say sounds reasonable, it is not what they are talking about. If I have a detailed map and photos, plans and all sorts of other data on the home, I will get an automatic ten years /less/ then the person that decides to google the same place. They didn't say having a map is an extra ten years, they said that having an internet generated map is an extra ten years. I guess the figure any crook that still uses a paper map is so far behind the times that maybe they really do have to rob folks to live.

Well said. Fact is, when some one is hurt the first thing EMS responders do is help the person, not check their ID. This card won't change that, or do folks think that we should wait on starting CPR or stopping bleeding until after we find their card and make sure that the government says it's ok to help these people? The law says we help every one, it doesn't say to let them die because they are not supposed to be in this country. With that in mind, the card changes nothing, except make it simpler for folks to keep track of people that may want to complain about having people always looking over their shoulders. Now, change the law so that it says no card and you get no help, then it would make a diff, but until then it is for tracking purposes only. Heck, I'm a white male with roots in the US going way back, and /I/ have a harder time getting health care then the illegal immigrants. This card isn't going to help the US, a country founded on freedom. It will help the folks that think every one needs to be tracked and watched because they may dare to think differently. I can't help but notice that our parents and grandparents lived quite well with out all this extra security and protections. They had planes, bombs, guns, drugs and all that other stuff for a long time and some how we survived. I don't believe that the world has suddenly become so much more of a danger that we need all this crap. Want to live in fear, fine with me. But it's time to wake up and tell folks to stop insisting that every one live in fear. It's the same world you lived in as a child, and your parents lived in all the way back. There have always been risks, there always will be risks. Use that brain a bit and chances are you'll be just fine.

I disagree

It's not a compassionate act on your part, but it's still a compassionate act by the government.

What are you, a teenager? You need good credit to buy a house, a car, to apply for a job, to get loans for higher education, and even for security clearances.

Who convinced you that you weren't part of the government?

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I'm on Comcast and I have to wonder at the results. Testing with the gov site I get results that are at least twice as high as tests run with any other service. They are still less then half of advertised speed, but they are consistently far better then I get any place else. Looks like Comcast if trying to pad the results by giving preference to that site. Yet an other reason for net neutrality needing to be enforced, so that the /real/ information can be gathered rather then the modified data the ISPs want to have seen.

I have to consider the option of using a VM to run windows, then doing the debug from the host system there by rendering the windows anti debug APIs moot. In using a VM or even 'rooting' your own system you can get around the systems that would normally prevent the reading of the information. Really it's all just a loss for the vender that uses DRM as there will always be a way around it so long as it has to run on a system that the user controls. Though saying that, I am starting to understand the ideas behind Vista and Win7 being set up to lock the owner out of so much, while allowing remote users so much more power then can be accessed from the keyboard. Perhaps that is what MS is after. Trying to own the system and lock you out, so that the other venders can prevent people from finding how to break the DRM. Still, it will be a while before even that will be posible.

Personally, I'm tired of all the folks saying things can't be done. Ok, granted, it isn't going to work with what we have in place today. But what you are saying is the sorts of things people keep saying time and time again, only to be proven wrong. '640k is more then enough for any one' Remember that one from B Gates? How about 'I can foresee a maximum of three to four computers needed world wide' from the head of IBM. How about the ever popular 'Powered flight will never be possible' or 'Mankind can never reach the moon'. To toss out 'it can't be done' is a strong indication that you haven't payed any attention to history. Can't be don't right now? Ok, that only holds till some one figures out how, but to think it just can't be done? Please, wake up and look at the world. It's full of things that people proved could never be done. Think it's unlikely to be done? Well, I happen to remember when 300 baud was an amazing speed to have at home. Try playing Eve at that, or even that breakneck speed of 14.4 that was more then any one needed. Remember when a full game came on a single 5.25 disk, and had room for saves on it? Things change, get used to it. The Grid at CERN can do it today, and before you point out that CERN is a high tech gov lab just remember ARPA net was only for that as well at the start, and not that long ago. Today its kid, the internet, is the biggest source of home porn, movies and games in history at speeds no one believed possible. It won't be all that many years from now that some one may be looking at your post and laughing about how you thought it could never be done. And just think, you may well still be around to shake your head and feel embarrassed about it. Though your comment about feeling sorry for any one that invested, well, have to give you that one. Right now OnLive looks to be a kid making sandcastles and claiming he's going to be a world changing architect some day.

Same reason other folks can't, they are human. Look, I despise MS for a variety of reasons and am one of the rabid anti-MS folks. But honestly, they do enough that is legit to gripe about, no need to blow a mistake like this out of proportion. Considering all they do it was inevitable to happen at some point. Shit happens, any one that codes has had a mega-woops at one point or an other, and if they haven't they they are cookie cutter coding and not risking creativity. Hate them for needlessly locking the geeks from the systems, for locking the owners out of the systems while permitting hackers more remote access rights then they could get at the system it self. But this? 'eh, they goofed, get over it and worry about the real evil they are doing.

Sweet, got any room in your group? I have my own dice, mustaches and beard, though sadly lacking women for some reason.

Well, at the time they came up with 0-k, they thought so as well, as that is the point that atomic motion stopped. Then they went and discovered that while atomic motion stopped at that temp, sub atomic motion did not. They went on further to discover that they could 'cool' things further and reduce/stop some of the sub-atomic motion. I think they have given up on a true absolute-zero at this point, and simply use it as an arbitrary point where one is needed. Until they can find the smallest bit that makes up what we call reality and see what temp it stops at, we'll never know the true absolute-zero, and I think scientists are finally getting tired enough of looking like fools for shouting to the world they have found it, then some one else getting even farther a few years later. Took a while, but pattern recognition seems to be setting in. There is little that scientists seem to love more then showing up each other, and making a claim of finding an absolute anything that can not be passed or gotten around is a bit like visiting a wolf pen while wrapped in fresh raw steak.