I agree that none of it is necessary to be successful in the sciences, or more specifically engineering. It also doesn't necessarily guarantee a more well-rounded, thoughtful person, either. That entirely depends upon the person, their motivations for taking the class ("damn, gotta take this stupid thing" vs. "i have to take it, so i might as well see if i can learn something"), and of course the person teaching the class. However, if you end up with one of those professors that cater to the psuedo-intellectuals the humanities seem to be fairly rampant with (the facebook-posting ne'er-do-nothings you refer to), then it's your responsibility to get the most out of the subject matter. Who hasn't taken a class, or even been in a single lecture, where the professor was worthless as far as any real "teaching" is concerned? In those cases, you must take it upon yourself to do the teaching
and the learning. It's not the subject matter that's failing you, it's the professor (or more generally, the educational institution itself).
And forming logical arguments doesn't always win a debate, I hope you're aware of that.
Well aware. Thanks to having an above average professor (according to other accounts here and elsewhere), that was Philosophy 101.
And actually, this rivalry got started for different reasons. Humanities students always complain about exams being hard, how their statistics professors are unfair, how they have to spend so much time studying. Yet our work load is significantly higher, difference being that we don't have the time to whine about it.
That's a gross generalization of students in the humanities, though I won't deny there's some truth to it. It's all about perspective and what you've been exposed to. If all you know are your humanities classes, then sure, their (humanities) statistics class might be their toughest. For those who went to an engineering school, then it seems petty to whine about that kind of class, when our easiest class very well may be Probs & Stats (it was for me). It's all relative.
But you can't deny the fact that there are plenty of engineering students who whine about their course load or difficulty. I've known a lot who brag about it. What's the point of that?
And not having solved an integral since college, well that might be in some disciplines.
Very true. That comment was really meant more for the other software engineers.
Oh and before you ask, electronic engineer here
Ah, it's all becoming clear now! :-P (I have a lot of close friends who are EEs)