Do you honestly believe what you just said? That paying taxes to pay for police and national defense, is the same as being forced to make a direct purchase from a corporation for a product you may or may not want?

Idiot. It means they've lied about pretty much everything pertaining to this law. They are probably lying about the number of signups, too.

...just stop. Please just stop it with this social justice, banding together for good crap.

I know what they've said. This administration has said lots of things about healthcare. How trustworthy are they?

More than 30 states didn't participate. Let's look at some of the states that did. Hawaii. Oregon. California. Maryland. Minnesota. Those are having far more problems than my state. People are probably going to prison in those states.

Stop trying to insert facts into this discussion. The civil war was only about slavery when it's convenient.

That's just stupid. Romneycare is a program in massachussets. I didn't vote for anyone that designed it. It's probably about the only state in the country that could have passed such a thing. Stop trying to claim that republicans are somehow responsible for the ACA when not a single one voted for it. The ACA will be Barack Obama's legacy and there is nothing you can do about it.

My state didn't participate in the medicaid expansion.

The great thing about this debate, is that at some point we will get a definitive answer. Probably not from the administration, they claim they don't keep track of those metrics. But we'll find out some how.

Yeah. That's why Bull Connor was fight segretation.

Thanks for proving my point. I was previously individually insured, lost my insurance due to ACA rules, and was forced into medicaid when I applied to the exchange. The last line in your quoted text applies to me, and I am an exception to the rule stated. I know of another person who had ESI and fell into the same trap as I when he left his job and applied for enrollment. The 7.1million number is bullshit, and it does include some medicaid enrollees. That's not all that is clearly fallacious in those numbers. How do you arrive at 7.1 million from the number you quoted above?

I am totally not surprised that your communist, pacifist, hippie, professor gave you some statistics that you swallowed whole as part of a captive audience.

Yeah, that's how much is spent globally. You said our government, yearly. I am well aware that our government is more corrupt now than ever before. But I'm not about to just start making stuff up, like you did above.

Show me.

There are 10's of millions of people who are insured like you are. People in that situation were never used as a reason to pass this law. I used to be happily insured with an individual plan. I founded a startup, and had my excellent insurance policy canceled last year because I did not have maternity coverage. I applied for enrollment in the exchange and was rejected because my income was too low. I was automatically enrolled in medicaid. My identical plan 's premium increased by 255% if purchased off exchange. You are probably too wealthy to be eligible for medicaid. I am glad the system is working well for you. It fucked me.