-1 Overrated. This is just not true and those who modded it up should feel shame.

This might be true for some very specific, high-traffic and relatively accessible wilderness areas (Gunnison Gorge comes to mind) but not so for the rest. Generally you will only need a permit to camp overnight during summer. Many times permits aren't required outside of June 1 - Sept 15. Additionally, many permits cost nothing and are self-issued by the user. I know they do this in the Maroon Bells due to being the one of the most photographed wilderness area in the country as well as being a particularly dangerous hike due to loose rock and lots of traffic.

Aside from these basic measures, there are also permits for collecting firewood, Christmas trees, and other forest products (varies by region).

I can really see both sides of the argument, but I do agree that your point is valid.

If we step away from books for a moment and consider television, the point becomes clearer. On one hand, I would never want to censor my children from watching something about Jesus or hosted by Carl Sagan. Those are interesting topics no matter which side of the debate you may lie on. On the other hand, I wouldn't want them watching a majority of the crap reality shows, extremely biased political talk shows, and other trash that has very little value for a child. If my child is interested in politics, I will encourage unbiased sources (all two of them) to make sure my child isn't getting brainwashed by propaganda.

If we bring the topic back to books, I think you can see some similarities and of course it comes back to "think of the children". I wouldn't want a book to be banned because I disagree with the content. I would want a book to be banned because it is fucking nonsense representing itself as the truth.

To reiterate what I am trying to say, I can't even really think of a book off-hand that would fit this criteria. The closest I can come up with is The Book of Mormon. It represents itself as historical fact when it should clearly be categorized as fiction. Even despite the tales of an angel coming down and speaking of golden tablets and such, I don't think I would necessarily want the book banned; however, I can see both sides and if books should be banned, The Book of Mormon presents a decent case.

I want my children to read what they like to and to not be exposed to indoctrination at school. Unfortunately, with as polarized as our country has become, it is increasingly difficult to make sure some extremist isn't plastering their disingenuous views on students. I know, my point kind of sucks here, but in the end I think saying "banning books is okay" is not a correct statement but I also think "books should never be banned" is false as well. The reality is somewhere in between and is decided upon with rational thought and a lack of bias.

I read it in school in 1994 as well. I can easily see it still being banned in some backwoods school district in the South, though.

In other words, the domestication of humans by the canine. They chose us, not the other way around.

So, if you were a chef and there was a new type of oven that was really nice but not quite what you wanted, you would go to an internet forum for computer geeks to see what suggestions they might have, because hey, they're diverse?

If it were me, I would be looking for exactly the opposite of a diverse group of people. I would want to hear the suggestions of a very specific group of people (in the case of my example, chefs) that are actually experienced with using the things I'm talking about.

How are you able to infer my attitude? I make a comment that amounts to, "it is sad that educators have to ask computer geeks for suggestions about how to educate" and I have some kind of "attitude"? I guess if I do, it is an attitude that things shouldn't be this bad. This teacher wants to help better his profession and better his students, and yet the very people he should be able to get help from are so unapproachable and/or unhelpful that the teacher is forced to seek help from an outside community.

I'm guessing that some over sensitive teachers modded me down because they thought I was ripping on them. I'm not, simply making a statement that it is unfortunate that our education system is in a state where a teacher has to go to these lengths to find the answer they need. This should be a solved problem already.

I commend your effort to stick with it. Teaching (or rather, the political side of the teaching profession) doesn't really encourage maverickism.

A brief summary is great, I agree. I didn't bother to check all the links either, simply because the first one I clicked (the Zeitgeist reference) sent me to some kind of social network website with a bunch of photos and a poor design. I was expecting to be able to read a summary of what it was rather than sift through a bunch of photos of people.

Honestly, I felt it was an apt commentary on the state of education.

A teacher comes to /. to ask a question about tools and software used primarily by teachers. They wouldn't be asking the question if they knew the answer, but what is the expectation from our geeky little comments site? Why are we the expected demographic to have the answer? Why wouldn't you ask this type of thing on a teacher's forum?

I'm being slightly rhetorical here. I don't think you'd ask this on a teacher's forum because you'd get the same response from all the drone teachers touting whatever the "one" tool is that school districts blow money on which is obviously not what the submitter is looking for.

I guess the apt commentary comes down to the fact that the one person we should be able to trust our kids' learning to doesn't know the answer to a teaching domain specific question.

Are the wii controllers still as clumsy as they were when they first came out? If they are, I can't imagine trying to actually use one to draw things on a wall from a distance.

Of course, I'm basing this on a recent experience with that Big Buck Hunter arcade game. It used to use the standard IR sensor at the muzzle like any shooting arcade game. Now it uses something that feels exactly like a wii controller and it's totally awkward and frustrating to play.

I bet if you rewrote this summary, you could probably stuff a few more link$ in there. You know, because that's what we prefer ... clicking to some random site rather than reading the content here.

It's not that there were forty of the thieves ... no no, they stole 40's. Malt liquor goes back quite a ways.

Actually, I know a lot of home brewers. Why are you assuming this and what does this have to do with my previous statement?

What you are saying amounts to, "because you believe that more draft beer supplies are sold to bars/taverns than home brewers, you must not know any home brewers." If my statement was reversed, would you assume I'd never been to a bar?

The last time I did this, I was labeled "toxic".

Best severance envelope ever.

The only time I run out of beer, I've likely already had enough. I don't see this as a problem inherent to beer.

If you told me someone was selling draft beer supplies (or whatever this crap is), my first assumption would be that it was for bars and taverns, not for home use. Thanks for taking time to point out the obvious.

This sounds like the way I already get my beer. I can't say I ever get a beer in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Can you also make the beer a liquid?

Not to trash on bartenders or anything, but grabbing a class, putting it under a tap, and pulling the lever for about 8-10 seconds already sounds quite simple. I actually can't think of too many jobs that pay as well as bartending that are much simpler. Yes, it's hectic on a Friday night, but you're still just pouring beer.

I already addressed this, but it is clear that you're not getting it. There is plenty of draft beer available. If you live in a place where there are only three available choices on tap, I feel for you, but I can already go across the street and order a pint from a selection of about 15 local beers, along with the standard selection of decent beers available at any proper bar. I have yet to go to the bar and have them tell me, "Sorry, we don't have any beer today."

From the summary, I get the impression that the marketing drone that wrote this doesn't actually have an idea of what beer is.

It's not often you get these gems from someone not posting as AC. You should make a game of it.