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Comment Re:FFS (Score 0) 278

Germany is pretty much a Jewish state these days, what are you getting at?

- Dan.

It was also a jewish state before Hitler took over. Only difference is now they allow more goyim in the middle-upper classes. Before WW2 they simply pissed of way too many people by personally controlling absolutely everything, including all the retail stores- hence the swastikas the nazis painted on them to point out the level of control it got to.

Comment Re:Unless (Score 1) 278

Check your history before flaming or modding me down.

If it weren't for France there wouldn't be an America. Seriously, Philosophically, financially, and with their military help America was established. Then they turned around and did for themselves too.

- Dan.

And if king Louis XVI would have found a better way to spend the country's money other than further bankrupting it and inviting unrest by funding the american freemason rebellion, like for example paying an army to kill a bunch of bankers like his ancestors did with the predecessors of the freemasons- the templars, then maybe the world would be a somewhat better place.

Comment Re:Hmm (Score 1) 379

There has to be laws against fraud, otherwise it would be rampant. Though this particular case may be bullshit, it doesn't matter. I state facts. If it were prohibition I would be a bootlegger. That answer it for you?

I suppose. If you'd have replied saying this is anything else than bullshit I'd suggest that you be declared a public slave by law which you'd naturally have no choice but to support given your unquestioning obedience to the law. :)

Comment Re:Hmm (Score 2) 379

Its still fraud. Lying about the true nature of a financial transaction is fraud.

And pray, are you a cretin or just a government employed psychopath ? If the government leaves you no option but to be a criminal or close up an otherwise non-harmful (and funny enough, legal) business why do you support the government ? Not to mention they're just prosecuting something as fraud where there's no injured party. Or are you one of those idiots that support the law no matter how wrong and unjust ? And don't give me an answer like "I'm just stating the facts". If you care to emphasize such insanity without condemning it, you are in fact supporting it like the state owned slave that you are.

Comment Re:Hmm (Score 1) 379

So then really they are committing fraud and money laundering, not so much the fact that their business is illegal. Thanks.

Umm, nope. It's more like the government one morning covering all the sidewalks with sharp spikes and then arresting anybody that avoids the spikes the only way left available- the road, for jaywalking or for blocking traffic.

Comment Re:Google = guilty of pro-Americanism (Score 1) 212

Look dumb ass, there's no fucking logic to it. It's a simple statement of fact. In addition, you're somehow now conflating "US supporting corporate interests" and "pro-Americanism!" Jesus fucking Christ, how is it even possible to do this? Again, you're talking about the US furthering corporate interests (at least, now you are) when to support DNS-and-Bind's point of view, you'd need to show that "corporate interests" would further American interests. Unsurprisingly, you can't show this. Please go read DNS-and-Bind's post again before trying to argue in this direction.

Your and maybe DNS-and-Bind's mistake is to consider corporations and the US as separate when in fact they are one single conglomerate. But I don't suppose you'd agree on that either. It's not the corporations that further american interests, it's the other way around: the US furthers corporate interests. The US doesn't have interests of its own, it only expresses the interests of its true owners who are not the american people, but when you go up the food chain the owners are the banking elite which in turn control all the major corporations. In short America and its corporations indeed pursue a hegemonic agenda but they're not doing it on behalf of a nation. They're doing it for a small mafia network. That's how the Roman and the british empires were run and that's how the american one is run today. If the US controlled Egypt just to dominate it militarily or politically getting rid of Mubarak would indeed make no sense. But if you consider the overriding concern of the US mafia state is the control of resources and not much else it makes perfect sense. After all the egyptian sheep must be convinced that the coming selling of their state corporations and natural resources 1 cent on the dollar was done by a "legitimate" government for legitimate reasons.

Comment Re:Google = guilty of pro-Americanism (Score 1) 212

Yes, let's deliberately misinterpret my post, surely that will win my all my arguments. No, in case you missed it, it doesn't make any sense for Google to help take down Mubarak if they were working for America because whoever replaces him won't be as pro-American. Read that again, maybe you'll understand it. NOTE: There is a gigantic fucking difference between "pro-American interests" and "foreign corporations interest" you dumb ass. Seriously now.

I understood your stupid point. I just don't agree with it. Do you understand the notion that everybody doesn't have to agree with your asinine logic ? And about there being a difference between corporate interests and American interests maybe you should look up the term "banana republic" and see how the only interest of the US in banana republics was to maintain and further corporate interests. Before you call someone a dumb ass maybe you should make sure you are not one.

Comment Re:Google = guilty of pro-Americanism (Score 1) 212

Your conspiracy theory is really awesome, but there's this giant flaw big enough to sail the Emma Maersk through. That is, Mubarak (you know, the guy Ghonim helped take down) absolutely furthered American interests a TON in Egypt; he went far above what you can expect any elected official (or the military) to do when it comes to assisting the US. So no, taking down Mubarak is not in American interests, it is most definitely the opposite. In other words, you should go back to your mom's basement and find another conspiracy to latch onto.

Really ? That's your logic ? Mubarak was a good american stooge therefore it's stupid to believe he would get replaced ? It was only stupid for Mubarak to believe he would be safe if he did all the boot licking required of him. The power to appoint someone to run a country implies the power to replace that someone at any point. The only thing that's happening now in Egypt is they're setting up a bought and paid for "democracy" so the wealth of Egypt can then be "legitimately" transfered to foreign corporations.

Comment Re:Exasperating (Score 1) 393

Does anyone else just feel worn out by all political BS in the U.S these days? I mean, it seems like Congress is nothing more than a group of professional trolls at this point.

Politics HAS become a profession. You work in politics for years, make 6 figures per year, then retire to the lecture circuit, or work for one of your supporting corporations as a lobbyist. Back when this country was first founded, politics was a calling, a sacrifice. Representatives were lawyers, farmers, merchants, doctors. A couple months out of the year they would give up their time(and therefore their money) to go to the capital and legislate. But politics was not how they made their living. But we've gotten away from this. People no longer see public service as a sacrifice. They see it as a tool for personal enrichment, a way to gain power for their family, and(this is the worst part) a means to an end. That end is power and influence, both while in office and once out of it.

Basically, it's not the system that is broken. It is the people within it.

A system that doesn't account for human nature IS broken. There are plenty of people that proclaim the superiority of "democracy" over monarchy. But a monarch has a vested interest in his country's prosperity: the country is basically his property, his domain. The only interest elected representatives have is to sell their country to the highest bidder and so the place is run into the ground for the benefit of outside interests. So tell me now where is that superiority of the republican system, cause a democracy it ain't ? From my perspective, you can only judge a political system by how it actually works, not by the theory it proclaims. There are monarchies that survived thousands of years while the current 200 year old republics seem destined to disappear shortly because they won't defend their countries interests. The roman republic collapsed when the rulers decided to cut costs by employing slaves on a massive scale competing free people out of business. That's exactly what's happening now: the rulers think they can replace well paid work in the west with slave labor in the east. Where does history tell you that will lead ? Oh and the roman empire after that collapsed because it thought it could tax the people to death to fund the army and still have a working economy necessary to keep funding that army. Guess what ? They were wrong. And the nightmare republics today do nut just one of these 2 mistakes: of the roman republic or of the empire- they're doing them both at the same time, therefore they have no survival chance at all.

Comment Re:WTF (Score 1) 69

Courage, self confidence, and willing to sacrifice is all that's needed for a revolution to start. But I'm also reminded that while taking down a government is hard, creating a better one in its place is even harder. Egypt isn't out of the woods yet as they're severely wounded with a vacuum of power left in the wake.

There's no vacuum of power. Mubarak's military is in charge. (he being the former head of the airforce) And it's not at all clear they're not gonna fix the September elections they took upon themselves to organize.

Comment Re:Then Warn Against the Internet! (Score 1) 146

That is just it. To have a real revolution you must have some hope of victory and frankly living to see it. People in the west and even slightly free nations really do not get it. If you see masses of people being killed you will not join them. Look at the very limited resistance in European nations durring WWII. The movies really over blow the size of the resistance. The French resistance was actually pretty minnor until liberation was near at hand. AKA they thought they had chance to live to see victory. The Warsaw uprising was when Russian troops where near btw that was a shameful thing the USSR did letting them die. The nation that did the best at resisting was Norway. The reason that did so well. Hitler gave them the most freedom and thought that they would actually fall in line because they where Nordic. BTW I am not saying this to take anything away from the Norwegian resistance. On the contrary they pretty much invited a brutal occupation because they took a moral stand. IMHO Norway was the unsung hero of WWII. But all this brave talk on Slashdot means nothing. Most of us are really clueless to how good we have it and how free and safe we really are. When push comes to shove almost no one here would stand in front of tank that just ran over another protester. It goes counter to the basic will to live.

All true. But on the other hand if you're seriously oppressing a people if you want it to work you must either make sure there are very significant differences between the people in your army and the people they must run over with their tanks or else make sure the oppressed are kept on such a tight leash they never have a chance to assemble en masse in your capital. The mob itself almost certainly won't be enough to overthrow the government but it may very well provide cover for traitors and plots(who then of course declare their coup to be a "popular revolution"). And most of those tinpot dictators accusing CIA involvement in movements against them are probably not lying. A democratic government is easiest to control: just fund a bunch of killers/rapists/child molesters to power and then bribe and blackmail them into doing your bidding.

Comment Re:there goes Lybia - don't they learn a thing...? (Score 1) 146

I mean, it's not like, duh, obvious or something? Left and right dictatorships are sucumbing to public protest, riot and facebook. And they *all* did the very same thing first, restrict the ways in which citizens can organize themselves, which in turn angried the citizens even more, and the whole thing totally spirals out of control. Dear would-be dictator of some soon to come fledgling and hopeful dictatorship. If you let it get as far as that you have to forbid people from using facebook, you're doing it wrong.

I'm afraid the reality is not as you paint it. In the real world absolutely nobody starts a revolution for the sake of "freedom", "democracy" or any such nonsense. When they do it's because they've been made dirt poor and struggling to get food on the table. The "freedom" and "democracy" shit is just a rationalization after the fact that flatters their ego after they've been humiliated (and so leaving themselves open to be even more humiliated by democratic governments that flatter their ego while they steal their bread). If you want proof just look at the "revolutions" in Venezuela and Iran- the demonstrations there are organized by well fed middle class spoiled brats that think they should run the place instead of the existing governments. With such a base they're got 0% chance of success while everybody else supports the government or simply doesn't give a shit.

Comment Re:Get a grip. (Score 0) 188

"Occasionally the tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants." — Thomas Jefferson

It's a popular sport to pull the Founding Fathers out of context, to prove a point.

King George could not be voted out of his seat. I dare say that Thomas Jefferson, if he were to live today, would advocate peaceful means to oust anyone from power in the US.

To be sure: I am not saying that Parent is saying otherwise, I know he is just offering a quote.

However, the general mood of this thread is something like "tyranny demands exceptional means to be used". Which is fine, but if you live anywhere in the Western world today, you have no moral justification for violence against the system.

Because the system is far from perfect, but is far better than a tyranny.

I'm sorry, but your reasoning is flawed. You're thinking of tyranny as only possibly being personal. What if the entire state with all its accumulated oppressive laws and institutions represents the tyranny ? Sure you can vote puppet president number xx out of office. Do you along with your fellow citizens have any means of directly repealing laws and disbanding institutions of your choice by vote ? If you live outside Switzerland I think not. Jefferson and the founding fathers hoped to prevent tyranny by giving the state powers limited by a constitution supposedly secured by a balance of power. Since that system failed a long time ago I don't think he'd agree with you at all.

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