I linked that in my reply to your last post, and it STILL has Chinese as most spoken. In 1997 and 2010. Yes 1 column out of 4 listed (one old) as English first. But all three columns are in close number of difference for how abstract this is. (261 dif, 151 dif, 138 dif)

From The Link; emphasis mine:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=top+language+spoken+2012&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=top+language+spoken+2012&sc=1-24&sp=-1&sk=
give you a random list of who knows who sites. One had Spanish as second above English below Chinese, but I am not saying I trust those random sources. I guess the argument is mute at this point than. The most official data is 3 years old.

One, your link doesn't work? Two Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers
English at top of two charts? Nope. Chinese on both. But thanks for another link that shows my point.

I still hear people tell me English is the most widely spoken language. Anyone feel free to direct me to source stating so. Anyone else feel free to point to source siting Chinese. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers

I think that we kind of agree. It is easy. And your right, no one has explained it. I think that is partly my point, I do it with DVI. DVI is just as easy IMHO. But no matter how easy it is, people aren't doing it. MS doesn't care most likely though, they get you to buy the xbox one, and a computer, maybe even a tablet. If you only buy one, they still got that much money.

Now, yes an OEM like tell marketing a pc ready to hook to the tv will bring it closer. I think isn't the steam box something like this though?

Not at all. I will say, I don't live there, and I'm sure someone can say to this. But China says yes we do it, so what go home. There up front? I guess everyone knows now what we all knew.

Than how do indies do it?

I hear even though it is easy, people just don't hook tv's to computers though. I'm not sure why, but I guess it is still minority?

I never knew about this stuff, that is great.

I can't speak for this item, but I know that I made planter boxes and saved money on them. I am also using them, so they aren't wasting space.

Article said you can use phone to phone home.

I can add coffee shops. http://lmtribune.com/northwest/article_5221c394-8a65-5365-93d2-425e9ae15423.html

They say you can turn it off, but I don't think you can completely if they ever tried to remotely do something. I don't have an answer, but hearing about prisim doesn't make me feel any better. MS was listed for that.

GoG is the best worst thing for me. I spent way to much, and now I have a backloggery of way to much. But I could never afford those games as a kid, and I'm loving QfG IV right now.

You can read all of this for yourself, there are a ton of details here, but still some questions. If I'm sharing a game with a family member, can we play against each other online? Imagine being able to buy one copy of the latest Halo, and family members get to play co-op or competitive games against you from their own systems. Pretty nifty. This is something that made me think. We would have to buy two consoles, but could me and my fiance really play games together again?

I think this is an interesting point. How many 360 games let you play locally? I am having a hard time finding ones I want to play that do. Most require two 360's it seems. So I don't think that matters much.