Is that your way of saying you have not been paying attention to the news over the last few years nor do you know how to use google?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ruling+bu... >Here, let me help you. Now if you scroll down a bit, you will find at least the bakery and the florist situation. There are a couple others that I know of, one in which a couple offered their farm home to members of their church for weddings because of the "view" and was forced to allow gays to wed there due to state law.

Seriously, google is your friend.

Confessions to a priest is confidential only because of religion. Certain religious beliefs declare a way to atonement and salvation through confessions. The priest is generally thought of as a conduit to their God(s). There is also spiritual guidance associated with it that can influence future behavior but ever since religion was in power, this came about and has been around since.

As for benefiting society- no more so or less than throwing out evidence and letting an obviously guilty person go free because the government failed to get a requirement of the warrant satisfied. You don't have to like it. Its just the way it is.

Then the state does it for them and attaches the bill to their tax liability. If they don't pay that, there is already a way to deal with it.

Lol.. bullshit. There are a lot of places in the bible referencing what we would call gays. There are at least seven references with at least one in the new testament.

As for a specific reference to serving gays, it is obvious that you are not supposed to enable or participate sin.

And don't worry, they are not using anything that belongs to you. Once it is taken from you, it is not yours any more. But even if you think you paid for it, you didn't, someone else did.

You sure? You just fooled me.

Oh, there isn't any dogma in what i said. The bottom line is the only reason minorities are a protected class is because the 14th amendment gave congress the power to make law for the purpose of equality in rights and privileges afforded to others. Gays simply are not listed within the law so they are not comparable to blacks in respect to discrimination in public accommodations. Right or wrong, it is not the same thing.

Nice theory but wrong. Or are you going to claim that the freedom of the press only applies to individuals and not businesses too? There certainly is no distinction within the first amendment. It says congress shall make no law, not none of these laws or except in this case.

Lol.. this has nothing to do with a one true faith. An established religion like Christianity or Islam has known values and ideas established long before anyone could be wanting to invent a religion in order to skirt law or regulation. That is why it is questionable to compare them.

As for protections, yup. I agree. But polygamy will likely be made legal because the argument for gay marriage has already been used for it and failed in the past. But if gay marriage is upheld as a right, there would be no reason other than the ones used against gay marriage to prohibit polygam. That being said, the comment was about having state law and courts deny established religious freedom and the necessity of a law like this.

I haven't even bothered looking for pure speech issues so i couldn't tell you of any.

I'm puzzled to why you ask about speech only. The first amendment protections cover religion also. Its not limited to just speech. I don't know if you knew that. Maybe you had something else in mind.

If you do not understand the constitution is the supreme law of the land, there likely is nothing i can do to help you other than suggest you stay in school. Maybe your mom can help you with that mumbo jumbo.

Lol.. somehow i do not consider refusing to participate in something the same as killing others in horrific ways.

Baking a cake is not participating in a wedding. However, baking a wedding cake would be because it furthers the act. If the wedding just wanted a white cake, there likely would not have been a problem. The bakery said they routinely otherwise served the couple.

I believe i just did tell them . But good job deflecting from the larger point which is inconvenient to the narrative of you have to serve every one in the ways they want else you're a bigoted pig who shouldn't be allowed to be in business.

What I said was pretty damn clear if you bothered to read past the sentence you quoted. Of course i did not say there are no black gays. Are you saying all gays are black?

See how silly that is?

Except the courts have already said driving is a privilege not a right so the government can be arbitrary on it.

Personally, i do not care if someone drinks and drives. They will end up killing themselves or likely still be safer than people texting or eating behind the wheel. But is it really practical to invent a religion and compare it to one that has been around longer than the government and had influenced the world for centuries before? It seems a little silly to me.

What death threats? The example i gave was a statement not a threat. Its no different of a threat as "hands up, don't shoot" is.

Also pedophilia is illegal, advocacy to legalize it is not. In fact, any law barring the political speech of advocacy on it would be unconstitutional.

Evidently, it is not as easy as you think. Nice attempt to skirt the issue though.

I really wish people would stop trying to compare gays to black people. They are not the same. First, the civil rights act is a law, not a constitutional provision. It is enabled due to the 14th amendment powers in section five in order to enforce section one of the same. Congress has chosen not to include gays within the class of protected persons. Second, congress uses the interstate commerce clause in order to apply the civil rights act to certain businesses large enough or operating across state lines. Finally, congress has declared that in order for the 14th amendment to be enforceable, an even smaller set of businesses not covered by the interstate commerce clause that provide public accommodations would have to comply to ensure the 14th amendment powers can be effective.

While you can certainly make the case that congress should include gays as a protected person (or class of people ), you also have to look at the 9th and 1st amendments which prohibits government from prohibiting the free exercise of religion and states that no right or privilege enumerated shall be used to deny rights or privileges held by the people. So in essence, a constitutional amendment would likely need to be made to square any conflicts that would prevent the free exercise of religion. Laws do not override the constitution.

So gays are not remotely the same as blacks legally or constitutionally when it comes to protections. And it varies from state to state as to if their civil rights legislation does include gays, but that would be a state rule which wouldn't override the constitution.