Even in our (Australia's) supposedly modern democracy, politicians can say anything at all to get elected and can't be held to it once they are. And once they're in they can hide behind things like parliamentary privelege and say anything they like without having to prove it's true.

There is NO true democracy anywhere in the world as far as I know.

Oblig Futurama: "[Shoot] someone who deserves it for once!" - Bender

That's right, I need to run my webserver from my microwave.

You haven't been burned just once. Every car that's been made with built-in iPod support but no equivalent open standard connector has been made obsolete by Apple, so you've been screwed by proxy via your automaker as well.

We should boycott this shit so hard, I already have a useless connector in my car and I'll be reminded every time I sit in it that that's Apple's fault.

It always amazes me that someone at Microsoft's job is to maintain a table of unique error codes for all their software, but it's nobody's job to document or publish that table.

The way to get a CEO removed from a company is to publicly name and shame him and then affect his company's performance in the market place.

Looks like that's exactly what they did.

That's right, everone is equal but some people are more equal than others.

They did. Read up on the history of the institution.

How many of the these 'tolerant' people understand that, and how many are scared that teh gayz are taking ar jerrrrbs?

It's true, he can't possibly close his argument. However his premise is muddied by the fact that he sees this as a 'moral' argument rather than simply one of freedom not to be persecuted for rational choices by irrational people. For example, someone reading bullshit from 2000 years ago literally and calling it 'truth'.

99% of Christians have no morals. 99% of moral people aren't Christian. Reexamine your premise and try again. ;-)

Another popular religion states 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. If only followers of that religion remembered that.

My religion says that anyone throwing stones is trying to promote Stonosexualism and should be locked away.

Anti-forcing-people-to-be-pro-gay is just paranoia from people who can't separate others rights from their own 'goals'.

Until we invent telepathy, nobody is forcing you to be pro or anti thinking about anything.

If the idea of other people doing what they want in private scares you, it's *you* who need to question what *you* want to force others to do.

Lack of consent has nothing to do with Common Good or whatever you want to call it.

He gets to his conclusiong from there by not going via an arbitrary world-view-centric argument.

Does it make it OK if there's less proportion of the population that you want to persecute?

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.

I just love it when people quote the Bible. Every single word is so ridiculous.

So God had the poops and decided... what? To change his infallible master plan in order to cause these humans to go crazy (remember if God exists, they have no free will anyway)? Or did he know all along that he was going to fuck with these people and simply watched it happen (setting someone unsuspecting up for a fall and then laughing when it happens)?

It's just so funny when not a single sentence could be adequately rationalised, let alone the whole 'principle' that people try to glean from it.