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Comment Re:Technology Adoption Lifecycle (Score 1) 155

Ok, let's be a little more literal here. I HAVE the ability to purchase such a vehicle but I will NOT because I know the ACTUAL price of the car is LOT higher if I have to pay for maintenance

Your anecdote does not resurrect your tangent nor does it conflict with my argument. You have done nothing more than identify yourself as part of the main market not the early adopter market. Why you placed yourself on that far side of the chasm is irrelevant to my point. That said, most people concerned over costs will decide against EVs due to up front costs, ruling out an EV today before they even consider secondary things like maintenance.

Comment Re:Technology Adoption Lifecycle (Score 1) 155

Nice cope there bud. The OPs comment still stands:

Nice straw man dude. The point I actually disagreed with was "They are not "new at it". They're just bad at it.".

The engineering culture at Ford is such taht they design things to be sold, not maintained.

And to bring you up to speed, every tech product made, whether designed to be sold or maintained, has to deal with crossing the chasm between early adopters and the main market. EVs from all makers are barely scratching the surface of the main market and all are finding reluctance.

The problem is not your "maintenance" tangent, it is day 1 off the lot product/market fit. The fit is there for early adopters but not the main market.

Comment Re: Technology Adoption Lifecycle (Score 1) 155

Range anxiety was not a thing for me.

I think the range anxiety is elevated in those that don't have a charger to top off the battery every night. For people who act sort of like ICE owners, charging when necessary or getting "low" (YLowMV), find a working charger when needed can take some work, and it definitely is a longer process.

A garage doesn't prevent the car from using much more electricity due to heater use when weather is cold.

The garage is more for protection against extreme weather. Note the various stories last winter about EVs not working when it got really cold. They seem to have been parked outside overnight. A garage, especially attached, should help the car/battery stay a little warmer and avoid that sort of failure.

I now drive a 2015 Volt PHEV.

Some friends are perfectly happy with their Volt. Great mileage around town, no anxiety on road trips.

Comment Re:Technology Adoption Lifecycle (Score 1) 155

Personally I'd like a plug-in hybrid (PIH), and hope those are perfected soon. It gives one more fuel options. For normal commuting I could plug in at night to charge and never have to visit a gas station, yet have gasoline as an option for longer trips or blackouts.

IFF the ICE side is something equivalent to a classic 2.2L Toyota 4 cylinder. Something that easily generates sufficient power, not a 1.xL that has to get near an "explosion imminent" level just to pass someone on the highway.

I expect more pandemics, civil wars, Yellowstone eruptions, petulant Presidents, and/or zombie apocalypses. PIH's are a better fit for chaos.

Well, perhaps if a PIH had a setting to run on moonshine. :-)

Comment Some on salesman, one teeny tiny upgrade (Score 1) 155

$13 loss on a $42K average car seems quite manageable. Add a must have upgrade, lets say a $35 upgrade to replace the cigarette lighter with a two port USB charger. Come on salesman, just one final little upgrade.

However I'm concerned about the $5K reduction in cost on the "Mustang", how was that achieved specifically?

Comment So product keeps pace with write offs only? (Score 1) 155

Which implies EV production may be somehow capped so that losses do not exceed available write offs? For example, if you could only theoretically deduct up to $X billion, then you should not produce more vehicles than will produce $X billion in losses. Anything beyond $X creates losses that will be realized, that are not convertible to tax write offs.

Comment The mandates are just theatre right now (Score 2) 155

If so, we shouldn't have the government pushing such immature tech on us.

Its just theatre to keep the true believing party members happy. No one expects the current and proposed mandates to really go into effect. All the hardship and inconvenience is scheduled to take place on some other politician's watch. Well, that future office holder has no obligation to accept the pain of past theatrics. The mandates will be scrapped or changed as their start dates near.

The dates will be pushed forward due to the anticipated technological and infrastructure requirements that have not materialized on schedule. Or they will be "morphed" into new taxes. Personally I expect to see the California mandate morph into and ICE-tax as the date approaches and EV sales are lagging.

Comment Technology Adoption Lifecycle (Score 4, Interesting) 155

Ford made the Ford Ranger EV 1998 to 2002, then the Ford Focus Electric from 2011 to 2018 before switching to the Mach-E. They are not "new at it". They're just bad at it.

That's not true. The market is not ready for mass adoption. We are barely getting past the "early adopter" stage.
There is a thing called the Technology Adoption Lifecycle. It recognizes that there is not really one market, that there are actually five markets with five distinct sets of customers with different means, different requirements, and different perspectives. We can simplify this for discussion by reducing the first two markets to the "early adopters" and the latter three markets to the "main market". Between these two is a "chasm" that is notoriously difficult, and time consuming, the cross.

The early adopters tend to be far wealthier, they tend to own homes that be updated with their own chargers, these home tend to offer shelter to the vehicles from extreme weather, etc. The preceding makes them ideal customers for a new EV offerings in general. Now add that they also tend to be less risk averse and willing to try new and unproven things. They are now idea customers for the new and emerging EV technology.

They can afford the higher price tags.
There is very little range anxiety as they top off their batteries to full each night when they park in the garage.
There is very little cold weather anxiety as their car is protected in their garage overnight
There is very little anxiety of expensive repairs, the lack of small local inexpensive repair shops.
They can afford a mistake, buying a technology before it is truly ready for the mass market.

Much of the main market simply can't afford the more expensive EV vehicles. Shortages of chargers and unmaintained broken chargers generate legitimate anxiety, as the Ford CEO's charging problems demonstrated on his failed "road trip". As did last winter's example of EVs that failed to start in the morning after exposure to harsh overnight conditions. The main market is terribly innovative, they want to see a reasonable timespan were the new technology is largely working, working for people like them, not people in some idealized situation. We aren't there yet.

We are only now attempting to get past the early adopters, and the chasm between them and the mass market is not built yet.

Comment Re:Palestinians literally allied with Nazis (Score 1) 518

Typical Zionist lies. Not wanting more immigrants is not the same as wanting to kill the existing Jews.

Straw man. You misrepresent what I said. The mufti knew they would be exterminated in Europe, and he still wanted the immigrants returned to Europe knowing this. He did not care that repatriation to Europe would be a death sentence.

Comment Re: Good intentions will backfire under Hamas cont (Score 1) 227

I suspect that the ones we see on TV are not the most representative. Plus, its probably a little dangerous to openly oppose Hamas. The overthrow of Hamas may be less open confrontation and more cell phone calls to the Israeli's reporting who is a Hamas member and where they are right now; where a tunnel, hideout or cache is, etc.

Comment Technical books are different ... (Score 1) 165

For novels and such a kindle paperwhite is a pretty awesome experience, comparable and exceeding printed books at times.

However for textbooks and other technical books you need a large screen color tablet. IMO the printed book experience is often better in this niche. Although having various reference books on an iPad can be convenient for short term unexpected stuff. But sometimes having the textbook or technical reference open on the physical desk, opposite side of the keyboard from the mouse, just can't be beat.

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