Google/Earthlink Wins San Francisco WiFi Deal 149
maximander wrote to mention coverage in the San Francisco Chronicle of that city's final decision on their city-wide WiFi system. They've chosen to go with Google and EarthLink. From the article: "In choosing to negotiate with the Google-EarthLink team, the city is going with two Internet giants with marque names. Both firms have deep pockets and proven track records online, but only limited experience building a large wireless network. The project, championed by Mayor Gavin Newsom, is intended to boost the city's technology credentials and help bridge the digital divide between the Internet haves and have-nots. It has also generated intense interest from other cities looking to build similar networks. "
how long before lawsuits (Score:3, Insightful)
2-Tier Pricing Can Be Profitable ... (Score:3, Insightful)
"Google, in Mountain View, intends to provide the free, so-called Wi-Fi access. The service it proposes would be faster than dial-up but slower than a typical broadband connection. In its joint bid, Earthlink plans to offer speedier access, but for a fee.
It looks like the entire scheme is a classic "the first dose is free but the good stuff'll cost ya" scheme. That's not necessarily a bad way to go, to implement a public good while preserving competitive incentives.
Replacement? (Score:1, Insightful)
Wifi for the poor... (Score:3, Insightful)
Chances are that no one will read this because I am languishing in Bad Karma Hell, but just wondering... why provide this great free WiFi in the name of the poor? Did someone miss the fact that you need a computer to get on the net? City wide WiFi is a great idea and all... but it helps the middle class more than anyone. Unless you bundle it with some kind of computer giveaway or those fabled $100 laptops, it's not going to be the 'great internet equalizer' or lead to any kind of social equity...
Re:Bridging the gap? (Score:5, Insightful)
A homeless man is another problem entirely. But for a poor person, all the sudden being able to use a cheap wifi connector and some knowhow to get internet for free instead of 45 a month will be a great boon.
Not good news (Score:2, Insightful)
It would have been better to implement something like RoofNet, which is fully open source and runs on off-the-shelf components. It's high performance, well tested, and in use here in Cambridge. There will be some add-ons to it made by my company, XA Networks [xa.net], but compatibility with the open-source software is guaranteed.
Re:WiFi, not Cash (Score:2, Insightful)
Unfortunately this agreement between Google-Earthlink and the City of SF is only helping those many unemployed people get wifi access whose local coffee shop are to cheap to provide wifi access for their customers.
Is this agreement going to increase computer accessibility to the poor? Are there going to be more computers at the public library branches located throughout the city? Don't push your luck.
Re:Bridging the gap? (Score:2, Insightful)
* Other than "A Vote For Mayor Newsom is a Vote For Free Wifi!" posters at the local coffeehouse
Missing The Point (Score:3, Insightful)
People can keep their Comcast or Verizon or whoever does their high-speed at home... but now your local municipality provides access to the sum total of the world's information wherever you want it. About damn time.
Re:Bridging the gap? (Score:3, Insightful)
Going to the library twice a week to check your email isn't the same thing as having a broadband 24/7 connection in your home. It's people who don't realize that who are holding the digital divide wide open, pushing with both arms.
Re:Free speech, freedom of religion, and... (Score:4, Insightful)
And from the article:
Both companies would share the cost of installing the necessary equipment, estimated at up to $12 million. San Francisco will pay nothing and actually reap some fees by leasing city property as perches for Wi-Fi antennas.
We have 3 cheap WiFi providers in the area (very cheap), we have DSL and we have Cable, and now we have 2 more wired providers who are testing the waters. I see no reason to give free access on the taxpayer's backs.
See above. Also, most people don't have those options. Most people, have the access to cable modem, some have access to DSL or other methods. But in most of the country, many choices don't exist. Also, most of these services are available because the companies were allowed right-of-way access to install the infrastructure. Access mandated by, you guessed it, the government.
Since you are an "anarcho-capitalist" (does this mean that if your house is on fire you don't call and use the services of the fire department? If it snows, do you make sure not to drive on the roads that the gov't plows?) You should love this idea. It is capitalism at it's best, companies competing to provide a service to consumers, at no cost to the government, nor the user.
-dave
Re:Bridging the gap? (Score:3, Insightful)
If only the poor's problems stemmed from not having Internet access.
This is California. Initiatives like this are more about gaining status among the entitlement demographic than any genuine desire to address poverty.
Re:Bridging the gap? (Score:3, Insightful)
This service wasn't available before. Now it will be.
Some people will take advantage - poor and non-poor alike. Those who are less poor will take more advantage, as usual.
Some people won't take advantage. Many will be poor, some will not.
So how does this make the whole project somehow a Bad Thing?
In other words, if you don't have utopia, don't do anything at all? Is that your argument?
As a guy who's been out sick for three weeks and can't make my current rent payment, while still making my $33 DSL/phone bill, I say this service will come in handy for some poor people. Considering that SBC DSL goes for $14/month now, most people will desktops won't bother with the $20 Wi-Fi, although some who only do email may go for the 300Kbps free ad version. But anybody with a laptop will find $20/month for city-wide access appealing and even more will find the free ad version appealing since most of the time external laptop use is just for email checking anyway.
There's nothing wrong with this service. It will help some people and not help others. Nobody said it was going to solve all urban problems.