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The Distributed Library Project 105

An anonymous reader writes "Mike Benham of thoughtcrime.org has started a cool project for sharing information and building community in San Francisco. From the website: "Unfortunately, the traditional library system doesn't do much to foster community. Patrons come and go, but there is very little opportunity to establish relationships with people or groups of people. In fact, if you try to talk with someone holding a book you like - you'll probably get shushed. The Distributed Library Project works in exactly the opposite way, where the very function of the library depends on interaction." It looks like the software is now available for other cities."
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The Distributed Library Project

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  • by Blaine Hilton ( 626259 ) * on Sunday August 24, 2003 @10:02AM (#6777238) Homepage
    This seems to be a lot like meetup.com. This is an interesting concept though, and in areas where there are enough people to sign up it could even be usefull. However even with large cities like Chicago, and New York, I notice there are not many people in the different meetups. The trick is having enough people in the system to make it work well.
  • Re:If only... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Meffan ( 469304 ) on Sunday August 24, 2003 @10:02AM (#6777241)
    This is more like a real world Napster, from the site:

    How does it work?

    Create an account, then list the books and videos that you own. You will then have access to the multitude of books and videos available in other people's collections. You can search for specific authors or titles, browse individual collections, find nearby users, or find people who like books in common with yours. You will have access to user-written reviews and have the opportunity to write your own.

    If the owner of a book or video you're interested in has time for you to pick it up, you can check out items for a 2, 7, 14, or 30 day period (at the owner's discretion). Returning books late will get you negative feedback, while returning books promptly will get you positive feedback. You are never under any obligation to lend an item if you don't feel comfortable doing so.


    They say it's more about creating a community though, in the real world for a change. I like the idea in principle, there's nothing wrong with getting out from behind the screen now & then and actually going out & meeting people!

    The eBay style "Web of trust" is also interesting, it could be a good way to meet new people who live nearby & have similar interests - some of them may even be girls! Now watch as the server is /.ed by the lonely surfers...Heh heh heh
  • by Lxy ( 80823 ) on Sunday August 24, 2003 @10:08AM (#6777264) Journal
    While this does seem like a cool project, the very premise is a bit skewed. Libraries used to be quite places, talking was always frowned upon, and the librarian was some old 90 year old hag who cared more about smacking people around than passing on knowledge.

    Times, my friend, are changing.

    It's often acceptible to socialize in libraries now. There are usually designated quiet portions of the library, but for the most part interaction between patrons is allowed. In fact, larger libraries set up study groups and so forth where interaction is ENCOURAGED among patrons who are interested in a similar topic.
  • by GeekGirlie ( 698666 ) on Sunday August 24, 2003 @10:12AM (#6777274)
    It's a great idea for sharing books and videos with other people. But, personally, I am really picky about to whom I lend things. Regardless of whether they plan to steal them, you'd probably never get your books back in the same condition that you loaned them. Then, you'll just have to end up going out and buying new books...
  • by DenialS ( 21305 ) on Sunday August 24, 2003 @10:23AM (#6777321) Homepage Journal

    Ahem. This ALA [ala.org]-accredited librarian (I just happen to work in the software industry) is offended by the summary and linked-to site's suggestion that libraries don't encourage a sense of community.

    As well as making books, videos, CDs, and other media available to patrons, physical libraries tend to offer their facilities to groups (for no or nominal fees) to get together for discussion. I have attended poetry-writing sessions, mid-80's computer clubs, environmental activism sessions, and local community groups, all hosted by local public libraries. Just check the bulletin boards (physical, or online) for notification and invitation to attend the many happenings at your local library.

    Here are a few stats from a March 2002 survey [ala.org] commissioned by the American Library Association:

    • 66% of all respondents reported using the public library at least once in the last year in person, by phone, or by computer.
    • Of those respondents who reported using the public library in person in the last year, 67% said they had taken out books, 47% had consulted a librarian, 47% used reference materials, 31% read newspapers or magazines, 26% connected to the Internet, 25% took out CDs or videos, and 14% heard a speaker, saw a movie or attended a special program.
    • 91% believe libraries are changing and dynamic places with a variety of activities for the whole family.

    Those 14% sure have good opportunities for developing some sort of a community.

    Maybe walking into a room without knowing anyone else there is daunting, so virtual communities like http://www.communitybooks.org offer a lower courage barrier for participating -- but at the same time, it's a little easier to melt into the background (or flame like mad) when you disagree with someone else's position.

    And please--that stereotype of you'll probably get shushed is way wrong. If you get shushed, it's not going to be a librarian telling you to be quiet; they want you to be active and engaged. If you're approaching another patron who is trying to read, that patron might respond positively or negatively--but that's the risk you have to take if you really want to make contact with someone else who appears to share your interests.

  • by wordisms ( 624668 ) on Sunday August 24, 2003 @10:23AM (#6777322)
    Libraries and other non-profit organizations are generally the source of the few community gatherings in any town. From chess clubs to book clubs, summer reading programs to adult discussion groups, the libraries in my communities have always served as a strong foundation for social interaction.

    While this concept sounds neat, and can probably serve a certain audience, if you wish your local library was more active, volunteer some time and get involved.

    I am a huge technology advocate, but things like person to person contact off the net are just so important.

  • Yeah, sure, I'm going to let some person I have never met, whose identity is not confirmed by the Distributed Library project in any way, know where I live so they can pick up a book or video ... just for the sake of building "community". How do I knowthey will bring it back instead of selling it on eBay, or are not just casing the joint as they take the book.

    If I have a CD or book to lend out, I GIVE it to the library and let them handle the distribution.

  • by cdcm ( 701099 ) on Sunday August 24, 2003 @11:12AM (#6777541)
    What about hooking this sort of database to something similar to friendster or livejournal so that people offer their items up for loan to the people (and possible groups/communites) that they choose? Then it is up to the individual to decide how distributed their library really is.
  • Swap, then? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jcsehak ( 559709 ) on Sunday August 24, 2003 @11:31AM (#6777627) Homepage
    Unless you don't just lend something out to someone, you make a temporary trade. Let's say we're both into fantasy fiction. I've got The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, and The Simillariowhatever. I want to see what this Harry Potter fuss is about. You've got the 5 Harry Potter books, and saw The Two Towers movie, and now want to read all Tolkien's stuff. So we trade for a predetermined period, say 5 months. If you decide to be a jerk and keep my books, no big deal, I've still got yours.

    One problem I can see is disputes: say you spilled orange juice on my books and aren't willing to buy new ones. Or say you just spill a little on one page and I decide to be a jerk about it and demand you buy a new one.

    But with some inventiveness, it just might work out.
  • by Pvt_Waldo ( 459439 ) on Sunday August 24, 2003 @01:28PM (#6778169)
    You got my vote librarian person. I too sorta coughed on my coffee when I read that intro.

    How are you ever going to simulate the sense of excitement and curiosity one gets going into a library? Wandering the shelves looking at books, finding that serendipitous find? Or simulate a thousand other things I'm sure I and other library fans could mention

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