Calculators vs. PDAs in the Classroom 550
TheMatt writes "CNN.com is reporting about a new conflict perhaps emerging in classrooms: calculators v. PDAs. The article talks about how TI seems to be making their latest calculator more PDA-like, while PDAs are gaining
TI-like functionality. A comment on current math education is this quote from the article:
"When you have circles and ellipses, there is no way you'd be able to do this without a calculator," Jarvis said. "It helps us visualize what we're doing." Were the compass and geometry uninvented?"
I'm old :[ (Score:3, Informative)
HP's (Score:2, Informative)
Re:TI-86 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Raising the bar (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Raising the bar - sextants (Score:5, Informative)
Maybe you'll be bad with the cheap sextant, but you should still get within 30 miles which will let you make landfall during daylight.
Hard to draw? (Score:3, Informative)
Circle: Use a compass. A compass is a simple tool that should be easier to learn than any calculator. (Adjust angle, stick pointy end into paper, draw.) And then all kinds of important tricks of geometry are possible, with just the compass - really only learnable with the compass in hand.
Elipse: put two pegs on paper, the chalk board, etc. Toss a loop of string around pegs. Pull loop of string tight with a pendic, chalk, etc. Draw with string kept tight. Lookie! an elipse! How hard was that?
I used my TI-85 to do all sorts of math, but I learned my math in books and on paper.
Re:A couple of thoughts (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Math shouldn't be about rote memorization. (Score:3, Informative)
Wrong, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!
Disclaimer: I pulled graveyards at a 7-11 in 1982 and 1983.
Everyone should learn the PROPER way to make change. It pisses me off when some clueless idiot goes... "$7.47 is your change". That's not how to do it. let's say my bill was $2.53 and $7.47 *IS* my change. The correct way would be:
Say $2.53
Give Penny (say 54)
Give Penny (say 55)
Give dime (say 65)
Give dime (say 75)
Give quarter (say $3.00)
give dollar bill (say $4.00)
give dollar bill (say $5.00)
give five dollar bill (say $10.00, thank you).
That way, you know that you didn't screw up counting it, or that you didn't fsck up typeing in the amount given. Also, make damn sure you leave the money I gave you on top of the register until I agree that it's the right amount of change. This prevents "I gave you a $20! No you didn't, you gave me a $10!" arguments.
Alas, making change is a lost art.
Re:other conflicts? (Score:1, Informative)
I also have a graph link cable for my TI-83, which allows me to interface with my computer. There are many programs out there, but none that would actually give anyone an upper hand.
Our course is designed (and I assume most others) so that the formulas are only just the last step in solving the problem. The real problem lies in understanding what they are asking, understanding what is happening, then recognizing what tools are available to solve it. The forumulas themselves are all just grade 8 algebra, and a retaraded braindead monkey could manipulate them with one hand tied behind its back and one eye closed.
I am about to write the final exam, similar to this [gov.bc.ca], in a week or two.
Re:A couple of thoughts (Score:4, Informative)
So a powerful CAS is absolutely possible to run on PDAs, especially ones with ARM processors. It's just not too easy to write a full-fledged symbolic CAS, so nobody's gotten around to doing it yet. But it's entirely possible.
TI Calcs -- more PDA functionality coming soon (Score:3, Informative)
Unfortunately, TI hasn't officially provided much information, but having been involved in the TI dev scene quite a while, I've had the opportunity to play with beta versions of these apps quite a bit. They're slightly limited when compared to Palm because they don't have touchscreen input, although the 92+/Voyage 200 calculators have a full qwerty keyboard. The software is quite nice, and I've been using it full time since my Clie broke a few weeks ago. I'll have the Clie repaired under warrantee, but for the target demographics of TI's calculators (mostly students), the Organizer software is more than powerful enough to make somebody who purchases one of these calcs reconsider whether they need to carry around a PDA as well. And trust me, consolidating the two devices and freeing up a pocket is definitely something to look forward to.
Re:TI-86 (Score:2, Informative)
TI-85: SimCity '99 v0.99 Beta [ticalc.org] Author's Homepage [erikserver.com] (works on 86)
TI-86: Sim Comunnity v2.21 [ticalc.org] Author's Homepage [attbi.com]