leviramsey's Journal: A thought...

Has the time come for the "FK Circle" (to use a possibly somewhat inaccurate term) to emigrate from Slashdot and move to our own territory, where rather than earn ad money for OSDN, we could have control over how the ad money is distributed?

Maybe something along the lines of Scoop... I realize that K5 is junk nowadays, but I don't think there's a community CMS that matches Scoop in the medium-sized community area (cf. HuSi).

There's enough interesting people who post in this circle to assure no end of content. If things get slow, we could always line up another Guy vs. Dayton no-holds-barred cage match :oD. Get Google ads going and generate enough to pay for hosting (or get somebody to donate a server for sponsorship mentions on every page, or some such), with the extra proceeds being used for charity or something.

If you have a comment, please post in this follow-up JE

Dunno...

[FortKnox]

I'd try it but everytime someone leaves, the hits go down. If we leave here, we'd lose at least 25% of the people right away... and does scoop have the messaging like slashdot (gives me a message when someone replies to my JEs or comments)? Without those, we'd probably lose a lot more.

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Re:Dunno...

[eugene ts wong]

I'd gladly follow everybody. However, I tend to be pessimistic. If there's 1 thing that I've learned about large groups of people, it's that it's very difficult to change, even if everybody wants to. That's because the destination "isn't as good as" what we have here.

My former roommate & I used to discuss various issues & difficulties in our lives [ie: employment; friends or lack thereof; etc.], & every now & then we'd jokingly say, "Oh, that we were back in Egypt!". That was taken from the

No

[John Harrison]

What is the point of leaving? I don't get it. Plus the group grew/grows because of people on /. picking up on it. You are assured of a slow death by leaving unless you have the critical mass to grow on your own. Better to be a parasite of /.

Re:No

[subgeek]

my feelings are similar to JH's here. why leave? is there a large portion of people in this circle that don't like supporting OSDN? is it just a desire to show "we could do it better?"

i participate here because i like talking to the people i've found here, but also because the journaling system makes it easy. messages, friending, etc. make it easy to keep track of people. if the community moves to a new place, one of two things will happen. it will either die out as people see it wasn't really as gre

i think blinder's got the right idea

[SolemnDragon]

He's made his minusone something that slashdotters can be involved in, but it doesn't take the place of what we do here.

Basically, we already have slashdot, and we have orkut, AND some folks have their own live journals and blogs. So there's going to be a lot of inertia holding people in place. But if you can produce something that adds content and something that we don't have here, like minusone is a separate project and orkut gives us pictures and a centralised bulletin board to post on, then we'll be li

Re:i think blinder's got the right idea

[FortKnox]

It'd be interesting to make a sight that grabs all the xml from sites like slashdot and kuro5hin, and allows you to comment on them. So we have slashdot without all the crap that comes with it. Opinions?

Re:i think blinder's got the right idea

[the_mad_poster]

That's relatively easy from a technical standpoint if you have enough people working the project, but you'd run into trouble with K5 and OSDN getting upset over lost ad revenue unless you mimiced that system as well. It wouldn't even be all that hard to lift a "/. lite" shell off the Slashcode and build around that.

However, I can almost guarantee that unless you kept it private, OSDN would come and try to shut it down regardless.

Re:i think blinder's got the right idea

[LPetrazickis]

Slashdot RSS is limited to summaries AFAIK.

Indeed

[Judg3]

It shounds great, but would it actually work? I ran my own little tech-related site for a few years which I thought had a lot of interesting content that you don't see everywhere. It was more or less a combo of "Current Events", "Hardware News", "PC Mods" and "Hardware Reviews", with a little bit of editorial mixed in there for good measure.

Even when I started getting a pretty decent hit count, I realized it's pretty damn tough to actually get people to become a part of the community and more or less gave

FK tried to do this with Marotti.com

[TechnoLust]

It didn't fly.

ADs?

[elmegil]

I don't see no stinkin ads. And I'm not subscribed either. Adblocking proxies rule.

I prolly wouldn't go

[Abm0raz]

Old habits die hard. I really don't see much of the crap in the circle itself (though I am a relatively new 'member'). The cricle seems to keep itself to the journal sections which (with the exception of Gmontag) seem to be pretty free of trolls and crap. Just a bunch of people talking. I like to browse the front page every now and then and it carries news and blurbs that I tend to be more interested in. Besides, if it weren't for /., I never would've known about MAME boxes or the BarMonkey (both of wh

OT: Your sig

[FortKnox]

Most excellent sig, ab. ATHF is the bomb.

You go if you want.

[arb]

I'll prolly not be following anyone, lemming-like, to another "home". Not that anyone'd miss me there, but I'm happy witgh this little corner of the net. If enough people stop posting here, I'll stop reading here and that'll be that.

In fact, I think I'll just stop now while I'm ahead.

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My beef

[Safety Cap]

The current system sucks because of a few things:

Limited number of messages It used to be 30 days, and now it is down to 15. Some times I can't keep up and stuff drops off.

Limited number of "friends" Something like 200, right? After that you can't add any more without subscribing. This limits the number of direct links you can have to "meme seeds," if you will. Removing that barrier would expose you to the creme that are the undiscovered Journals (friend of a friend's).

I don't know what the answer is. I

Re:My beef

[KshGoddess]

Limited number of messages

The limit on how many messages usually screws me out of a je or 2 that I would've liked to have seen, because I sleep when the je activity goes on, for the most part.

Limited number of "friends"

I dunno, it's not a HUGE issue, but it would be nice to not think about how many friends/foes I have.

Perhaps a slashcode-based community with invites? ie, one person creates the site, and invites the 'fk circle'. Posting restricted to current users, no anonymouses of random trolls. We gr

Friends

[Safety Cap]

Oh, it is not that I care about the "new Karma" score of friends/foes (i.e., "popularity"), but I like to be exposed to as many different journals as possible.

Maybe there are too many, but I like to read both red and blue [utexas.edu] journals.

I agree that the only thing that keeps me coming back are the Journals. I really only venture onto the Front Page when I've read and ranted in the JEs and have no replies. ;)

I'm struggling with the quandry of how to allow good new voices into the community while preventing the tro

Livejournal

[TRS-80]

What about Livejournal? It's far more suited to the journal style of interaction that /. (which is just tacked on to another engine really), allows group journals (communities), is open source etc. I don't see the point of running a whole new site/CMS for just some journals when other people have already done the hard work.