Journal JetScootr's Journal: Well, yes I am an idiot. Sometimes. 1
Reviewing what I wrote yesterday, I realized I was way overharsh towards the creators of ubuntuguide.org and ubuntugeek.com.
My rant was aimed at them, but really, my piss-offedness has to do with the overall new-guy-to-Linux situation. Their efforts are not to be despised, even if less than what I needed. To those I hit with this, I apologize.
A new guy to Linux shouldn't have to dig as hard as I've dug, just to get the compiler to work or to find out how to add stuff to the box.
richie2000 - thanx. In my next post, you'll see I discovered the info you posted. However, I would absolutely dispute your statement that ""Universe/Multiverse" are "defined" on the repository add/edit screen in Synaptic". They ain't, at least not in 7.10, which is the only version I got. The fact they weren't is why I went on the info safari in the first place. I saw all this cool stuff in 'universe' but .... well, I'll explain in "Idiot part II".
The reason I'm ticked is cuz, like the title, I'm really NOT dumb. I'm very good at figuring things out. Read what I said I've done, and add this to it: I've never finished even one year of college (background: I grew up in a 3rd-world state [Texas], and had to deal with poverty and severe ADHD / HFA).
If I'm having trouble with this, how's "Joe Sixpack" gonna be able to make the jump?
I'm hoping by my rants here to aid myself (and others) in nailing down what went wrong, systemically, so when I join the F/OSS team for real, I'll have a worthwhile target to aim at.
Realistically, even though you mean to help, richie2000, I'll ask that your comments NOT include guidance in what to do next - I want to find ALL beartraps the hard way, the way a person not like me will. So far, my list includes: shopping-mall 'you are here' kind of map, that suggests to *any* newbie of any skill level or goal set, HOW to get where they want to go; This information should cross all company, distribution and application boundaries. For example, now I'm gonna have to find out the scope of the term 'universe': just Ubuntu? or all Debian distros? or all Linux distros? (Just an example, don't tell me!)
The list also includes: setting up a developer's system with the normal libraries. I ultimately did get gcc to work, but there's no X headers that I can find anywhere on the box. Also, the nautilus 'search' tool has never found any file, even when the file is in the current directory and I use every fricken letter and no wildcards - what's up with that? "hw.c" should be able to find a file called "hw.c" in $cwd. ('hw.c' is my 'hello world')
My rant was aimed at them, but really, my piss-offedness has to do with the overall new-guy-to-Linux situation. Their efforts are not to be despised, even if less than what I needed. To those I hit with this, I apologize.
A new guy to Linux shouldn't have to dig as hard as I've dug, just to get the compiler to work or to find out how to add stuff to the box.
richie2000 - thanx. In my next post, you'll see I discovered the info you posted. However, I would absolutely dispute your statement that ""Universe/Multiverse" are "defined" on the repository add/edit screen in Synaptic". They ain't, at least not in 7.10, which is the only version I got. The fact they weren't is why I went on the info safari in the first place. I saw all this cool stuff in 'universe' but
The reason I'm ticked is cuz, like the title, I'm really NOT dumb. I'm very good at figuring things out. Read what I said I've done, and add this to it: I've never finished even one year of college (background: I grew up in a 3rd-world state [Texas], and had to deal with poverty and severe ADHD / HFA).
If I'm having trouble with this, how's "Joe Sixpack" gonna be able to make the jump?
I'm hoping by my rants here to aid myself (and others) in nailing down what went wrong, systemically, so when I join the F/OSS team for real, I'll have a worthwhile target to aim at.
Realistically, even though you mean to help, richie2000, I'll ask that your comments NOT include guidance in what to do next - I want to find ALL beartraps the hard way, the way a person not like me will. So far, my list includes: shopping-mall 'you are here' kind of map, that suggests to *any* newbie of any skill level or goal set, HOW to get where they want to go; This information should cross all company, distribution and application boundaries. For example, now I'm gonna have to find out the scope of the term 'universe': just Ubuntu? or all Debian distros? or all Linux distros? (Just an example, don't tell me!)
The list also includes: setting up a developer's system with the normal libraries. I ultimately did get gcc to work, but there's no X headers that I can find anywhere on the box. Also, the nautilus 'search' tool has never found any file, even when the file is in the current directory and I use every fricken letter and no wildcards - what's up with that? "hw.c" should be able to find a file called "hw.c" in $cwd. ('hw.c' is my 'hello world')
I'm not telling. :-) (Score:2)
Just one thing; Jane Sixpack won't be setting up gcc and doesn't really need to know the definition of the universe/multiverse terms to find most software she needs. Again, they don't install Vicious Basic first thing on Windows, do they?
Most of the time, trying stuff to see what happens is the best course of action. I agree that this is a very geek-centric approach, but in my experience it's the best way to learn and perhaps instead of focusing on writing b