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[NYT] 51% of Women Are Now Living Without Spouse More

[NYT] 51% of Women Are Now Living Without Spouse

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  • From the article:

    Only about 30 percent of black women are living with a spouse, according to the Census Bureau, compared with about 49 percent of Hispanic women, 55 percent of non-Hispanic white women and more than 60 percent of Asian women.

    This here I think is an important issue because it discusses the hard to quantify yet very important subcultures of the US, specifically African American communities being a strong outlier that may be dragging the mean. Again its difficult because they didn't give us a median or a standard deviation (or those values for these communities).

    And all of this is interesting because the images accompaning the actual article (and, possibly, all the interviewees as well) are all of white women.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by btlzu2 ( 99039 ) *
      sorry to be a bit OT, but did you take a class in statistics or have you picked that up from self-studying? i'm interested in digging deeper into stats--had a probability class for engineers, but never statistics. i think stats should be required for engineers as well actually. any references you would recommend?

      dabbled a bit in std deviation and variances, but never fully absorbed what they tell you.
      • Hmm. Well my undergrad was in Systems Analysis which means that it was kind of a CS degree with deterministic modeling, stochastic modeling and simulation coursework as well as a year of stats. I then went and did grad school in evolutionary computing and pattern recognition which is all built from the realities of applying statistics to problems. It was the convergence of education with interest (of course I then went to work in a CS field seperate from AI so... maybe my interest wasn't as hardy as I th
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  • Things like this make me worry that I will die alone, and unloved. I know that sounds a bit over the top, but I see the very fabric of our society unraveling. It worries me. Not that I think anyone should be stuck in a situation they hate - far from it. I find myself wondering WHY society is changing in ways that tend to force us apart. I don't think these stats represent any sort of moral failing of the people. I think it's an indication that our society is changing in ways that are not conducive to people

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by FroMan ( 111520 )
      Society is what the members make it. It is a moral unravelling. If the people cannot take responsiblity for their actions, who can?

      There is nothing terribley different in the responsibilities of today's people compared to any past civilization. There are more "things," physical pleasure is easier to come by, and an all out assault on anything that tries to place man in a proper perspective of themselves in this world. Everyone is special, a unique snowflake, and deserves good things according to the cur

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      by tuxette ( 731067 ) *
      What's even more sad is equating "not having a spouse" to "going to die alone."
      • How should I think, instead? To me, that's a very personal feeling. All I have ever wanted is the love of a good woman, and a family. I'm not cut out for it though, it seems, since 3 of the 4 women I married divorced me. The one outstanding tried, physically, to kill me. I was granted a divorce on grounds of mental cruelty. To me, being married and having a family was a great source of joy, and being seperated from my family is not, to me, a fun thing. Getting to keep 1/2 my paycheck, and living alone. Yeah

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          by tuxette ( 731067 ) *
          Wow... I mean fucking wow... married 4 times?! How old are you?

          Have you ever had a good, satisfying life as a single person? Or did you just hop from wife to wife? Are you even able to live a good, satisfying life as a single person? Because if you are unable to that, you sure as hell aren't going to be able to have a good, satisfying life shared with someone else, no matter how much you convince yourself otherwise...

          Desperation to be coupled is not and never will be a good foundation to base a relationship
          • I hear a lot of mud slinging, and assumptions about how happy I was when I was single, but I don't read an actual answer to my question. Yes, I was happy when single, and no, I did NOT just jump from wife to wife. There was a gap of more than a year between 1 and 2, and between 3 and 4. I did go right from 2 to 3 in a weird way, but that was the exception, rather than the rule. I'm 37. Calling me desperate was simply insulting.

            So, now that that's out of the way, I'll ask again - how is it, in your judgement

            • Re: (Score:1)

              by FroMan ( 111520 )
              Way to drag the divorce rate up man... :-P

              Personally I am of the thought that getting re-married is a bad idea. Almost as much as I am against getting a divorce in the first place.

              My wife and I dated for 3 years and were engaged for a year before getting married. During that time we were able to get to know each other, our goals, our likes, dislikes, and our beliefs.

              We spent the first two years avoiding the topic of religon because we came from two different backgrounds. Finally we started working on it
              • All VERY good points.

                I think the one thing that the insulting troll woman said that was true, was that I DO tend to pick partners who, no matter how much I love them, in the end are selfish and won't work toward a consensus. As such, no matter how gracious I've tried to be, it's always ended in the other person deciding that they'd had enough of basically not getting their way 110% 25 hours a day, and they walk. My original point, in the first post, was that this didn't happen as much 'back in the old days'
            • You aren't alone. I've been married 4 times and divorced three. For a long time I thought having a man would solve my problems, but they only made them worse. What I learned between number 3 and 4 was my role in choosing the men I did. When I started to work on myself, things began to shift. I learned about boundaries and how I couldn't change anyone else. Right about the time I had figured I'd live alone and I'd be o.k., a wonderful man walked into my life. And I was ready for him. So....there is hop

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by tuxette ( 731067 ) *
              Hmm... and you think a gap of "more than a year" is enough to get out of the rebound phase and get to know someone well enough to marry her? Well, you must, considering you've tested that theory so many times...

              I still think you're desperate to be coupled, and so desperate that you make stupid mistakes and refuse to learn from these. I can sort of understand making the mistake of the second marriage, but the third? The fourth? Give me a fucking break...

              As for how it is you're supposed to think... my first s
              • It's nice to see that you are so super intelligent, that you can tell from a handful of slashdot posts exactly what's wrong with me, and can both tell me what to fix, and insult me at the same time. So, since you're so smart, why don't you also go solve the middle east peace problem, world hunger, and global warming?

                Oh, and also kindly feel free to take your judgmental bullshit, and fuck off.

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by Com2Kid ( 142006 )
          Advice:

          Avoid white women. The white culture in America is horribly messed up. Makes it statistically harder to find one who is not crazy.

          Study psychology, learn to make basic diagnosis of people. If someone is apeshit crazy, DON'T MARRY HER.

          Date/go out/etc, for at least 3 or 4 years. Minimum. Live together for a year or two.

          Don't be a push over. To some (and on occasion, a great) extent, women want you to fight back. This is stupid. They think they are always right, but they need you to establish yo
          • Thanks. The funniest part of all of this to me, is that I'm actually an Asiaphile. I've never found a good (read - non awkward) way to meet Asian women. Perhaps you have something there.

            • Re: (Score:1)

              by Com2Kid ( 142006 )

              The funniest part of all of this to me, is that I'm actually an Asiaphile. I've never found a good (read - non awkward) way to meet Asian women.

              Get a degree in Mathematics, Science, or Engineering. I met mine while taking a math class! ;-)

              Move to a part of the country that is predominantly Asian. If you make good money, or look like you make good money, you will have no problems finding one. Asian cultures still have some understanding of the economic benefits of marriage. Well, most cultures understand

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