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If you're gonna be a demagogue... More

If you're gonna be a demagogue...

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  • I'll change my whole my political outlook because one person garbled one speech. I can't imagine why anybody would think THAT would be a bad idea.

    In other news, I dragged my brand new car to the dump today because the door squeaked when I opened it. I'm thinking of taking the bandwagon to work from now on.

    • If you don't see how that speech projects a lack of intellectual integrity, then you are already a passenger on a bandwagon.

      • Wow, your response could not possibly have been any less relevant if you had gone to Wikipedia, grabbed the text out of a random article, and posted it here.

        Who the hell are you talking to, because it sure as hell doesn't appear to be me.
  • I like Nancy, she has a good voting record. When I lived in her district I voted for her and I would vote for her again. That speach was not inarticulate, in my opinion, even the emphasized sections I couldn't really see what the big deal was. Not like "Foo me once, ah, er, you can't get fooled again!"

    Libertarian? I'll vote Libertarian when I become I scientologist, they have about the same creditbility in my book. The idea of absolute property rights is abhorent to me, it will lead to a tyranny of the rich

    • That is a strawman [nizkor.org] of the Libertarian position, not to mention a slander by conflation with pseudoscientific cultists and trigger-happy militia fascists.

      You have the right to use force to DEFEND your and yours. I don't think many libertarians believe you have the right to shoot someone who walks up to your front door to get you to sign a petition. If you try to FORCE your way onto my property, then who is initiating the use of force?

      Whether you believe property rights are absolute or not, you must admi

      • Sorry about the slander, but as a left leaning Anarchist, libertarians make me soooo angry for getting things almost, but not quite right. (with "right" being defined as "how I'd do things" of course ;)

        Yes, I admit that limited property rights are a force for good. But you are missing the point. Why would I need to force my way onto your property? What gives you the right to keep me off in the first place? It is because there is some good to private property that we can all agree on, not because of some inn

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