perfessor multigeek's Journal: Attention New York area /.ers!

This Saturday I'll be facing off against another opinionmonger at a New York bar. Podiums, timed rounds, and everything. The results will be turned into columns and published a few weeks later.

The subject: Can a non-native ever be a REAL New Yorker?
As a fourth-generation Manhattanite, guess which side I'm representing.

If you'll be in the area, come on by. If nothing else, it'ld guarantee having *some* smart people in the room.

Here's the ad that the magazine sponsoring it put out.

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Gentle citizens:
Something on your mind? Need a forum to vent your pent up frustrations? An arena wherein your ramblings and railings will be encouraged, fostered, and nourished? A fortnight has passed, the next CAUSTIC draws nigh...

Yes, CAUSTIC, The L Magazine's boozy, biweekly fiasco of a public debate. This Saturday, at DUMBO's Low Bar, come hear, cheer and jeer two brave souls as they unpack the complex issues of the present age and lay them out on the cheap motel bed of our collective consciousness. A new twist at the upcoming Caustic involves the mandated consumption of spirits by the less oratorically inclined (read: well dressed) debater. In the best traditions of daytime talk TV, the audience, through their hooting and/or hollering, will decide who has to down the peach schnapps and Tab.

So my dear cosmopolite, for your fortnightly dose of urbane erudition and vitriolic wit get thee to CAUSTIC. As always, you are heartily encouraged to bring your: friend, parent, paramour, factotum, familiar, parole officer, 'special friend', or corner deli guy.

These are heady times my friends; heady indeed.

CAUSTIC:
7:00 PM sharp!
Saturday the 28th of June, AD 2003
Low Bar, 81 Washington St, between Front and York Sts (below RICE)
Brooklyn, NY
A,C to High St
F to York St

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So tell me, why isn't there a Shameless Plug tag in either HTML or XML?

Drat.

[Planesdragon]

Y'know, I gotta get to the city one of these days. Maybe after I find a publisher.

Good luck, sorry I can't make it. (I'm not even a native upstate'er. Go figure.)

As for the "shrill" tag--there is one. It's called

Bearing
Lots of
Indeterminatly
Necessary
Knowledge

Unfortunately, it wasn't very popular, and has been replaced by CSS (style="shrill:true;")

I'll try and make it

[AntiFreeze]

But I'll need better directions.

If you could email them to me at seth at rocketreview dot com, that would be greatly appreciated. I'll try and drag sporty [slashdot.org] along as well.

See you there!

Re:Do us a favor, Rus

[mekkab]

yo, anonymous moron,

OBVIOUSLY you have no idea about DUMBO (Down under manhattan bridge overpass). Given that your Hipness Quotient (HQ) is soooo far below the accepted average (You prolly think that "Sex and The City" is some new-fangled coctail) you are no longer allowed to partake in this journal entry.
Heh, you prolly think Mojito's are still the cool summer drink, ass face!

Sorry Charlie!

P.S.- you eat shit on the regular, coprophile.

the timing's all wrong...

[mekkab]

I'll be up in the NYC the weekend AFTER that (Jul4)... too bad.

And as an ex-pat NYer keeping it on the RIZZEAL in DC, I think its total bullshit. But then again, thats what I say about everything! ;)

Go figure

[blinder]

Okay, this is slightly on the topic, and this is something that has slightly bothered, and yes this is completely meaningless, but I just wanted to let this out.

Why is it, that some people from NYC (Manhattan in particular) consider anything north of say, I dunno, Fish Kill, Upstate NY?

Having lived in Syracuse NY for 8 years (I'm in Baltimore now, thank god), there is an entire world well north of that. I remember visiting the city, my friend Pat and I were riding on a commuter train, down from Fish Kill,

Check yrself

[mekkab]

Okay, first of all:
I'm in Baltimore now, thank god

WTF?! Having spent 4.5 years in Balto and now living outside DC, I would love for you to clarify your reasons for rejoice. I'm not trying to get into a "DC is better than BALTO" argument, I just want to know what you find worth while about the "City that Breeds." (maybe it is better than Syracuse)

Now originally I'm from Rockland County. Recently, the area code there (changed from 914 to 845) was ridiculed on Sex and the City (well, not recently, over

Re:Check yrself

[blinder]

LOL! City That Breeds Good one :)

Okay, first, I came down here from Syracuse in '98. My girlfriend lived in Belair. We then moved to Whitemarsh (where we are now). We just love the area, especially baltimore county. The idea of living some place as creepy as Columbia, or Laurel is terrifying and well, after my last job, I spent a lot of time in the Silver Spring/Bethesda/Gaithersburg area and it just didn't seem right. I can't really put my finger on it, it just was not quite right. Northern VA was just de

Re:Go figure

[ces]

I will agree there is much to New York State north of Syracuse and Albany.

A few years ago I went to visit some relatives in the Potsdam, NY area. Kind of scary that most of the people around there made the upper peninsula Michigan seem cosmopolitan.

Guess I'm just too used to the West where even in small towns off the beaten track many of the locals aren't from there and most of the locals have traveled some and visit whatever passes for closest "big city" on a regular basis.

how far north is "upstate"?

[perfessor multigeek]

Oh, no question, for many NYC folks, anything north of the Bronx is "upstate". I have heard people say, without irony, that they were going "upstate" to Yonkers.

Well, first of all, the classic New York mindset measures distance by time to get there, not geography. So the Bahamas and Los Angeles are both closer then parts of the Finger Lakes.
Then there's that whole scary passing-through-Jersey thing. How can Somers not be far enough to (effectively) be right by Syracuse if I've gotta endure Jersey to get