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Comment Re:containment theory... (Score 1) 1032

If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was. Of course you can find this in a wiki, however you should also read forward.. However, some have debated whether his version of what happened was colored by his disgrace after the 1973 Middle East war, when he was forced to resign as Defense Minister over the failure to anticipate the Arab attack. Dayan's contention was hotly denied by Muky Tsur, a longtime leader of the United Kibbutz Movement who said For sure there were discussions about going up the Golan Heights or not going up the Golan Heights, but the discussions were about security for the kibbutzim in Galilee, he said. I think that Dayan himself didn't want to go to the Golan Heights. This is something we've known for many years. But no kibbutz got any land from conquering the Golan Heights. People who went there went on their own. It's cynicism to say the kibbutzim wanted land. and also Historian and Israel ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren says about Dayan's comments There is an element of truth to Dayan's claim, but it is important to note that Israel regarded the de-militarized zones in the north as part of their sovereign territory and reserved the right to cultivate them-a right that the Syrians consistently resisted with force. Syria also worked to divert the Jordan River before it flowed into Israel, aiming to deprive the Jewish state of its principle water source; Syria also actively supported Palestinian terrorist attacks against Israel. Israel occasionally exploited incidents in the de-militarized zones to strike at the Syrian water diversion project and to punish the Syrians for their support of terror. Dayan's remarks must also be taken in context of the fact that he was a member of the opposition at the time. His attitude toward the Syrians changed dramatically once he became defense minister. Indeed, on June 8, 1967, Dayan bypassed both the Prime Minister and the Chief of Staff in ordering the Israeli army to attack and capture the Golan.[ But if we go back to the origins of Israel it's pretty clear who the aggressor was. Following the adoption by the United Nations of Resolution 181 in November 1947 and the declaration of the State of Israel in May 1948, several Arab countries adopted discriminatory measures against their local Jewish populations.[18][19] There were riots in Yemen and Syria. In Libya, Jews were deprived of citizenship, and in Iraq, their property was seized. The British Mandate over Palestine was due to expire on 15 May, but Jewish leadership led by Ben-Gurion declared independence on 14 May. The State of Israel declared itself as an independent nation, and was quickly recognized by the United States, Iran, the Soviet Union, and many other countries. 1948 arab israeli war - May15-June10.jpg Over the next few days, approximately 1,000 Lebanese, 5,000 Syrian, 5,000 Iraqi, and 10,000 Egyptian troops invaded the newly established state.

Comment Re:The Free Ride is coming to an End (Score 3, Insightful) 254

Wow.. you sound like a such a bleeding heart liberal.. oh wait.. this is slashdot. Legally avoiding taxes is stealing.. that takes some balls of come up with. I call bullshit! It's my right to minimize taxes I pay in every legal way. Greed (as you call it) or free market capitalism (my preferred term) is has been not only driving this country, but also most of the civilized world. When did US, with the largest GDP in the world (right on par with the entire EU) become the 2nd rate nation? It's not about gimme, it's about keeping the money you worked hard for. If you feel like helping your state/federal government you can always send them a check...

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