Wut? To claim no alternative, you'd have to destroy free will. And I assure you, I'm not a materialist.

Yeah, it's just that base 4 is not the default.

Original American Bible? What's that noise? King James, baby, from 1611. Arguably equalled, but never exceeded in the English language.

"those kind of people are not liberals, not in the classic sense anyway"

Should we just give up on these left/right, liberal/conservative labels and just go with Rousseauan and Lockean?
BHO is going to defend the Orwellian state, and liberals are going to rush to call him 'conservative' for it.

How do you want the list sorted/grouped? There is the media, hollywood, the hipsters, the college students. Oh, academia, and half of social networks. Then there are the unions, and the bulk of the bureaucrats. Hmm. . .the unemployed, as well as Philly, with the ridiculously biased voting percentages.
Your feigned fog's funny. :-)

*Sigh* Whatever happened to traditional rejections of Truth, like crucifixion? You kids are so over-caffeinated these days.

. . .the Lefty rubes who bought off on BHO's soteriological piffle.
I can take equal abuse for being insufficiently skeptical about Bush, sure.
Part of that had to do with ManBearPig's incessant whinging about being unable to steal the 2000 election.
But the overarching point here is that central banking has turned these United States into an oversized high school, featuring a non-stop bunfight.
As for NSA, well, yes: given the capability to do so, are we to be surprised it's not being leveraged for purposes both good and perhaps no' so good?
That's the kind of naivete that keeps sending idiots to Washington.

Sorry, not Roman Catholic.
As a Baptist, I can tell you that

is a side-effect of pursuing Jesus Christ. Back atcha.

Did you mean "2 + 2 = 100"?
If you swapped from base10 to base2 at the equals sign, that would make a twisted form of sense.

And yet, still, you haven't shown me an alternative.
Nor have I ever explicitly denied an animal nature. In fact, I've got 23 pairs of chromosomes that underscore the existence of such.
Nor do I see how I've placed myself above it all, in positing that there is an universe within which we all sit. I have stated that there is a purpose.
Nor am I seeking to "distance yourself from what [I am]". I'm out to maximize the value of that which I am, through developing it.
Maybe, just maybe, you're ignorant of what you're talking about, amidst your trolling. :-)

Still waiting to hear what your actual alternative policy prescription is.
Or not. You seem adept at the 'just accuse and finger point' game.
Sorry: thought this was an exchange of ideas.

It's a simple biological, primal reaction to one's environment (can even be boiled down to basic physics), but.. you know the rest already. You know the 'alternative' but just won't see it.

Maybe you can explain it to me in terms of cancer. You have a malignant tumor. You can operate on it and kill it, with a high probability of full recovery.
Now: what am I not seeing, and what alternative are you suggesting? That I go all Christian Science, and refuse the operation? You can do that. It's a subjective call.
But now you're a political leader, and the threat is a foreign country. Can you make the Christian Science call for your nation, and ignore the threat?
Now, I expect you'll attack my analogy, and rightfully so: international politics is orders of magnitude more complex than a cancer diagnosis, where you can repeat the tests a couple of times and achieve high certainty about the situation.
Oddly, that underscores my point: when YOU'RE the guy getting hammered in the media/at the ballot box, and not just sounding off on /., it's a horse of a different color.
All that to say that I refute your notion that "You know the 'alternative' but just won't see it." I know enough to point out that it's a much gnarlier problem than either of us is likely to understand.

Past all of the spitballing, what I've never heard articulated is any sensible alternative.
Isolationism? Sorry, it's the information age.
Non-interventionism? Well, that seems to have been where BHO has mostly operated, except for when he hasn't.
Would that there was a better answer.

I've no ambiguities about my lineage.