Why you don't prove that illuminati or similar IDEA doesn't exist ?

I recently watched a BBC (!!!) documentary about psychology and marketing. Did you know that the "people in power" thought humans are irrational/violent and should be manipulated to become "happiness machines" as mentioned in the documentary. Happiness machines translate to something like apathetic don't-give-a-shit sorry excuse for a human being who will just CONSUME and do what he is told to do and think. (and majority of people are like this.. they're just not aware of it)

They are creating desires then fulfiling these desires to keep you in line.
In Europe, when people lost a way to fulfil their desires they got out on the streets and started burning and behaving like savages. As long as we people have our belly full, our family's belly full - everything is ok. We think we're civilized and smart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7EwXmxpExw
here's the BBC (!!!) documentary.

This ex-marine guy.. he deviated from the plan and started thinking irrationally/violently. They had to 'correct' that. If you had any influence and started spreading anti-gov material (saying that they're bad or they're part of a conspiracy) they would get you too.

Enjoy.

I have a 13 year old ICQ account.. still works great. Same as 13 years ago.
Not very popular with 'common people' though, but I noticed.. nothing except facebook on desktop and line/whatsapp on mobile for chat, is very popular with common people.

I wait firefox v269.
I mean, what's not to like ? 269.. and in 20 years, my child is gonna speak about firefox 18057. Google will be at 20-30 k .. version.

What a bloody joke.

> And I guarantee those people will say vat grown causes everything from cancer to autism. If we don't watch out this will become the next frankenfood scare

If the food is grown 'naturally' then people will not speak about cancer, autism, obesity etc. There's a big difference between this and GMO.
The "frankenfood" is banned in EU and couple of more countries, for a reason (not just the political one), they would ban diet coke as well.. if it wasn't so popular already.

But you don't care about that, do you.

Then every other country US (and it's allies) indirectly invaded is in fact a civil war of that country.

To quote a wikipedia article on the subject:
"Due to significant involvement, both direct and indirect, of foreign nations and militant groups, the conflict is sometimes described as a proxy war.[442]"

Civil war.. with dozens of countries involved and same number of dodgy groups linked to cia and al-qaida. Right. If it makes you feel better.

Well you ought to get a reality-slap.
It's not a civil war. They are fighting al-qaeda affiliated terrorist organizations operating there. Israel bombed them as well couple of days ago.
They(Israel) provide financial support, as well as Britain (and probably US, if not directly, then indirectly.. because US = Great friend of Israel .. just look at those hefty military aid numbers) for those al-qaeda affiliated terrorist organizations (oh my what a irony) known on mainstream media as "rebels". Rebels in context of "people against oppression".

It's a old technique .. .on how to do a regime change indirectly. Quite popular these days.

The only problem they (us,israel,britain) have now.. is that they can't ship weapons directly there, due to international sanctions.
So for now they just supply them with vehicles, technology and money.
If you want citations... google them.

Regarding internet cutoff.. it might also be done by those 'rebels', to make Syria look bad. Here, everybody assumed Syria's government did that, so if the rebels really did do it, they succeeded in the mission.
If that's not the case.. well f it. If they think that's best course of action for their country in wartime.. they might be right.

6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 313.723/320.220/329.918/4.815 ms

Thailand to US. Sometimes it can be even 400 ms to some US/EU server, but to slashdot is 300. Working over ssh on that kind of latency ... is painful, but one gets used to it.

Internet is good here, it's just that US/EU is so far away.. not as far as moon, but still..

Well I don't care who speaks. But this sound like a propaganda message to me.

In any case, earth existed long before we came on it, and it will probably exist long after we're gone. It's a miracle what it can survive. What can't survive on it is human race. It don't care about holes in the atmosphere, extreme heat, flooding or extreme winters. We do.
So go figure. Who is making changes and who's gonna suffer the consequences.

No matter who can say no matter what.

And the biggest problem is, is that I think Stephen Hawking IS aware of this shit, and he still, for the public, says something like this. You should worry about that, not about the planet exploding because of plastic bags and smoke.

The planet is not fragile.
  - The planet is fine - the people are fucked.

What a load of crap, coming from a idol.

> Let's take heroin addiction for example. You know how many heroin addicts that get clean, yet go back to using the heroin? Pretty much all of them. Turning off the "addictive" cell won't change that. It's not about the addiction, it's about the high. It's about how the drug makes you feel.

Ok, feel a need to state the obvious.

Feeling the high won't destroy your life. Feeling a constant need for getting high (addiction) will destroy your life.
Many drugs are actually beneficial if used wisely. Same as everything else in this world. Thinking that something is exclusively bad or good, is just plain stupid.
When it comes to drugs, you can find loads of documentaries about psychedelics (for example) used to treat hard addictions, and some other things.

Many drug users (I know few of them) don't want to be heroin addicts. Yes, they want the high.. because they can't function without it .. as in .. feel sick without it.
Nobody likes feeling sick. That's why we have medicine today advertised on TV massively about curing flu/cold symptoms.

I'm assuming that taking heroin let's say.. once every couple of weeks / month .. without feeling that you 'need' to repeat the experience after short time, would be a great achievement in steps toward helping addicted people maintain some sort of normal life.

So, this might be an end to nicotine/cigarettes ?

I'm just mentioning it. Since people obviously think that "drug addiction" means "cocaine/heroine addiction".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_dependence#Addictive_potential

How many people are cocaine/heroin addicts and how many are nicotine addicts ?

>> and voting in new leadership based on Socrates' principles and not politicians!

How you gonna do that when in politics all your choice is .. politicians that are all the same ?

I wonder if the people are aware of the fact that politicians, individually, aren't changing anything. And the whole system is made so people have power to choose politicians. But the politicians don't change the system.. the system is a movement, that keeps going in a certain direction.. fluidly. If you take events from the last 15 years, you should see it. Politicians are just the representing faces of the direction that the system is going in.

Otherwise, all these things you mentioned (and a lot more if I may add) wouldn't happen, especially not gradually like this. Every year some other BS.

> I know right? We got so much oil from Iraq and Afghanistan that gas is now back below $2 / gal and the world is a better place.

Not only that, but the world is having more opium/heroin as well. The taliban seem to be enjoying capitalism.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Afghanistan_opium_poppy_cultivation_1994-2007b.PNG

> I am against lying about why they are doing it. Just be honest, and admit Mr. Zuckerberg that you just want to hire people you can pay less money.

Why would an entity(corporation) 'admit' something like that ? What you expect them to say ? Something like this:

- We won't hire expensive local people. We want easier access to poor submissive {indians, pakistanis, etc.} so we can make them work harder and give them less money for it, which in turn maximizes our profit. ... be real.

Why people by default think these people are on their side, is more mysterious to me than question about point of living, universe, nature of reality and couple of other things combined.
Whatever they do, it's for profit. They just wrap it up nicely for the media. The wrappings are all that matters anyway in your culture.

>> On a related note, isn't it funny to see how some geeks who complain about having their privacy violated actually want to do the whole "record everything 24/7", not thinking about the privacy of those they meet?

You mean being selfish, but not knowing it ?