You're hand-waving. The CRU's data is completely unverifiable, you're just going to have to live with the fact that their research can't actually be used. How about this, how about CRU starts over again with the NOAA data and reproduces THEIR findings which demonstrate THEIR claims, and other people can independently verify them. They are the ones making the claims, the burden of proof is on them.

yeah, that's _alleged_, except for the case where the NSA outed the fact that France's Airbus was bribing people to secure contracts in violation of their own country's laws and international agreement, sorry about making that public. That must have been embarrassing.

Repayment in kind implies that China is doing this because we did it to them, but it hasn't been demonstrated anywhere here that China has that much in the way of intellectual property that we've been stealing over the years. To the contrary it's always been THEM stealing from EVERYBODY, which is not alleged, it's obvious when you see knockoffs of technology pouring out of China. That's what this topic was about, despite attempts to turn it into payback against the USA.

So what you're saying is that mail in NYC is a truck you put things on, not a series of tubes?

That's awesome because pedos versus terrorists could be conceivably construed as "Aliens versus Predators"

This is a rights issue. If you want to be free with your body go ahead, but if the government wants nude pics of me without my permission, that's 1984 shit right there.

I don't know about the UK where this is being discussed, but in the USA the pictures have to have lascivious intent, which the scanners do not. that doesn't mean that zealous neighbors/police don't turn in people and create problems, but the law at the federal level says that the depictions must be lascivious (or some similar wording implying for sexual purposes.)

It's not clear to me that it's religiously motivated. When I was a kid in the 80's we swam naked in the pool at the YMCA, it was actually encouraged because it kept the pool cleaner. What happened in the USA at least was several high-profile cases of alleged group child (sex) abuse and numerous child kidnappings. People became really freaked out about who was stalking thir kids. I remember walking to school and a few years later having to attend classes at school about how to watch out for predators and never be unattended. American society changed for the worse

There are actually Buddhist Monasteries, many in South Korea, that will take and train foreigners for extended periods of time.

Where am I going to find one of those???

There is a reason that Bush didn't go into Iran, and it was that people in the military were actively thwarting him.

I believe the quote was: "[An attack on Iran] will not happen on my watch...There are several of us trying to put the crazies back in the box." --Admiral William Fallon

OH SNAP:

Media Concentration

Read: media without profit motive threatens the moneyed-interest propaganda monoculture. And are we seriously supposed to believe that the son of Rupert Murdoch doesn't understand that media is international these days?

"As Orwell foretold, to let the state enjoy a near-monopoly of information is to guarantee manipulation and distortion," Murdoch said, referring to George Orwell's book, "1984."

What an unbelievable fucking tool.

It's not necessarily the immigrants. If you look at TB numbers for example, what you find out is that the majority of the TB sources in the USA are citizens who have come back from a trip out of the country. However, the percentage overall of TB carriers who are of foreign origin, legal or otherwise, has jumped, and the fact remains that treatment resistant TB is coming from places that don't have it under control.

As far as crime is concerned, my statement is "My home town never had a gang until it got a Mexican gang." I'm not attributing it to anything in particular about Mexicans, it just so happened that a spike in crime was directly attributable to the rise in legal and illegal immigration from Mexico into my home town because the perpetrators were easily identifiable.

You are just trading one huge problem for another. We don't live in the third world, we live in the first world. We expect a certain quality of life. The third world is enormous. Industry in the USA competes on price. Therefore it is always desirable for business to take advantage of labor that will work on wages that can't support a first-world standard of living if you can get them into the country. It doesn't even matter if they have kids that grow up expecting a first-world standard of living because you can still always bring in more from outside the country.

Do you desire a first world standard of living? It's thanks to things like the forty-hour work week, labor rights and the minimum wage, all things that immigrants in the third world are used to compromising on. So you can ease immigration restrictions all you want, the third world will always have people that will work less than what is legal and create a market for illegal, untrackable labor that is not getting those health checks. You can keep allowing more until there's no restriction at all and health checks are irrelevant because you're living in a world where so many people live and work without even basic health care.