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Comment Re:Hope! (Score 1) 522

I can't believe people like you. Install a bare-bones Debian (no desktop, server, print manager, ...), then apt-get anything you want. You don't have to run Gnome n/KDE/??? or whatever comes stock installed. You can apt-get blah after the install making it the sweet, 133t box you want it to be, no cruft (well, perhaps I overstate ... :-) whatever!

Physician heal (or educate) yourself. FFS, grab an unused box and try a few installs in as many ways as you want. When the weekend's over, you'll know what you want for your precious snowflake box.

Comment Re:Some Sense Restored? (Score 1) 522

I actually did a "which systemd" on my current Mint XFCE install--which has GIMP installed and up-to-date--and got only silence.

Unsurprising. Same here. Wrong command. Try:

aptitude search systemd | grep ^i
i libpam-systemd - system and service manager - PAM module
i libsystemd-daemon0 - systemd utility library
i libsystemd-journal0 - systemd journal utility library
i libsystemd-login0 - systemd login utility library
i systemd-services - systemd runtime services
i systemd-shim - shim for systemd

Huh. I'm running a (very recently installed) hacked Mint 17 (and I'm still learning how it works; long story).

Um...I know apt-get isn't shy about installing all kinds of dependencies when I need them ...

Tell me about it ("CUPS"). "aptitude upgrade" has always wanted to upgrade/re-install seemingly thousands of packages every time I try it. I call these things "Debian gotchas", but I don't much worry about it. Debian would be exstatic for me/us to volunteer to see if I/we can "fix" them if I/we can. I'm pretty lazy, and I trust the DDs to generally do the right thing (they're smarter than I am). This "systemd dependency" issue is just the latest "WTF?!? *Everything* drags in CUPS!!!" issue. Meh.

[Filter error: Please use fewer 'junk' characters.] FUCK THE HELL OFF, /., DAMNIT! Leave my <code> inserts alone, FFS! Ass HOLES!1!

Comment Re:Bullshit ... (Score 4, Insightful) 57

Yup, well if you hail from western europe, your democracies aren't in much better shape....

Their democracies just had huge demonstrations in numerous countries protesting your USTR's TTIP efforts.

Your taxes are high.

You don't think your taxes are too high?

... your governments impose themselves make mountains out of mole hills on social issues ...

Do you even bother to think before spouting such nonsense? Have you bothered to read a newspaper recently? I think not. Abortion, gay rights, free speech, your Constitution is used like toilet paper, your military is now in its seventh war in the Middle East, Israel can do no wrong, you can't decide whether to take out Syria's Assad, make Iran glow in the dark, ally yourselves with Turkey, wonder wtf you're doing supporting the Saudis, yada, yada, yada, ... Note that's just one side of the world. Add Pakistan, Afghanistan, Philipines, ...

... and your elections are probably rigged, too

Hey Zeus! Ibid. Hanging chads ring any bells? Your elections have been gerrymandered for decades, your Demopublicans/Republicrats have been selling you all down the river for just as long. You haven't even begun to try to figure out what to do with your former slave population. How do you get Palin, Hillary, Romney, and Obama as your choices and that's it? Add in Snowden's revelations, Obama's persecution of whistleblowers, Holder's pathetic *everything*, the Megaupload clown prosecution, Gitmo, ...

Perhaps ebola will save us from all of you.

Comment Re:Don't like it? (Score 0) 57

If not now, than at some point in the future.

This is different from that. Then is a time different now. This is less than you should, or likely would, need to care about.

There is a great value to a single unified environment.

There may be great value in single unified environments. There are great hazards inherent in monoculture environments.

Some of us care that what we use to communicate ideas is a precision tool which should not be WHACK! WHACK! WHACKed out blindly like you do.

I'd care a lot more about what you write if you'd care more about making me want to read it.

One is less than two. Then is older than now.

Regards, one of the local "Grammar Nazis" who'll hound you to your grave (while you might insist this is mere minutiae).

It makes my eyes bleed!

Comment Re:No Google (Score 1) 210

mail.com / email.com got bought out by AOL years ago ...

I don't much care about that. Yeah, AOL in its day was pretty silly, but mail.com seems not bad. Anything I've talked to them about seemed handled professionally. Yeah, I tend to edit my replies in emacs, then attach that to an otherwise empty email (to preserve formatting), but that's the way of the world (Microsoft and its related apps' embrace & extend corruption) that I've come to expect to have to work with in many ways. They didn't invent that. FTP need[ed|s] to be told explicitly when it was handling binary data too.

... and require google to be unblocked when you need your password back

Didn't know that, but I won't forget my email provider account's pword, barring senility or ethyl alcohol (feature! :-). I don't bother going out of my way to block G. I just try not to use them/it, other than Youtube. I don't have much to hide, and I assume something's always been grepping what's been going through the main network nodes. Now, they're just better (more capable, technically speaking) of doing it.

They were compromised directly somewhere around 2008 ...

ty, but that was a long time ago, yes?

So that's 2 large companies with cross-scripted access to your password/data, and two points of agency entry - catch22 when you forget your password

So don't do that. I'm looking forward to getting IMAP access with them. $20/a. IMAP would eliminate my need to use their (IMHO) icky webmail interface. All webmail interfaces blow chunks (imho).

Comment Re:Don't avoid them (Score 1) 210

And you're still a fucking idiot. People like simplicity, and ease of use. Facebook/G+ make that REALLY simple for them.

No, they're not (still a fucking idiot). You're delusional. What's hard about email, for instance (from the user's point of view)? Okay, if you're stuck using Win*, it's a !@#$%, but that's not email's fault. *Everything* on Win* is a !@#$%.

You're on /. how long, yet you've not bothered to listen to (read) the *many* discussions *many* forums have been reporting on this over the years, or bothered to research this ancient (in "Computer/Software Years") topic?

Correct me if I'm wrong but /. has a search function built into it, yes? I just checked. At the bottom of the /. home page, see "Story Archive". In there is a link to view by "Topic." In the resultant list, find "Facebook."

Have fun.

Comment Re:Don't avoid them (Score 1) 210

Facebook is arguably an aggregation of some of the best online/telephonic communication mediums ever developed.

When you use the word "arguably", it means both sides of the argument may have validity. Are you really going to try to argue that FB ranks *anywhere* near TCP/IP (and tools like SMTP, NNTP, FTP, ...)?

Kids these days.

Comment Re:Don't avoid them (Score 1) 210

Any grandmother with an account on facebook could tell you how much easier it is to see what's up with their grandkids via facebook.

My mother (a grandmother) would argue that with you. She was quite happy with email and despised FB. When lazy brats like you decided a spam email or two a day was too much to deal with and gave up on email in favour of FB, she was disgusted.

It's hard to believe that we're *still* arguing about this on /.

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