Troll mod? Really? The parent is 100% correct. I certainly wouldn't sleep as well at night if I knew that a business that fucked up with any personal data they had on me could get away with it by calling it a "mistake."

> Never had a need to backup a game and I don't consider it a right. Blu-rays have a special protective layer and are pretty hard to screw up with scratches. If you somehow break one by stepping on it or lose it in a fire I don't see why you think you should have a right to a replacement.
> The argument for backups is used as a justification for piracy.
Wow, really? Now I can't tell if you honestly believe what you post or if you're just trolling. No right to backups, huh? Only pirates want to back up their games, huh? I guess you don't think we ought to be able to rip our DVDs for backup purposes either. Or our CDs. Is it copyright infringement to copy a purchased track to an external hard drive for backup purposes? Do the parents of a messy kid have to buy another copy of The Lion King each time he all but destroys the disc? Should somebody with a library of thousands of CDs/DVDs/games be forced to physically hunt through their collection for a certain disc when they want to hear/watch/play something, instead of relying on the convenience of local digital storage?

If you answered "yes" to any of the above questions, you have the same mindset as the entertainment industries and are therefore a good representation of what's wrong with copyright today.

> No they'd proabably prefer 10,000 sales.
Oh, I'm sure they would, but the point is moot since 8000 downloads != 8000 lost sales.

Did you intentionally ignore the content of my post, or simply forget to read it?

>I agree with the OP. Drop the shenanigans and at least be an adult. Admit this is for piracy, with occasional, almost accidental legitimate usage.

I said that it doesn't matter why it was created; what matters is what's done with it. People have the right to back up their games, whether you like it or not.

Oh, and who cares if it enables piracy? Piracy is the scapegoat for entertainment corporations, one of the boogeymen of the Internet. It doesn't cause substantial harm to anyone. Cracking down on it is unfair persecution of millions of otherwise innocent people. Too often it leads to persecution of non-pirates, those who are completely innocent. As we've seen with the OtherOS fuck-up.

Obvious trolling doesn't work. You have to be more subtle than that.

So a company's intellectual property rights trump a consumer's rights to exceptions to those intellectual property rights? In what twisted world does that make any sense?

> I'm sorry, but the cold hard truth is that the OtherOS doesn't have all that much value.
To you.

First they came for my heated steering wheel, but I did not speak out, because I had heated seats, heat, AC, power windows, headlights, signals, engine and transmission...

> Why are you blaming Sony and not the hacker that exploited OtherOS and ruined it for everyone else?
Because that hacker was perfectly in his rights to do what he did?

> The Other OS option was used to hack it. That's why they removed it. It had already been used to compromise the security.
And that justifies remotely removing a function of the device after the sale? Telling somebody that they cannot hack a device they've bought is outrageous.

> That isn't an exaggeration, numerous indy developers have reported piracy rates of over 80%.
Which is a completely meaningless statistic on its own. I'm sure numerous indy developers would prefer 2000 sales and 8000 unauthorized downloads to 1000 sales and 0 downloads.

But hey, any excuse to bash those pirates, right?

> I'd like to see as many disincentives as possible with console piracy.
Even at the expense of important rights like making backups, right of first sale, and right of fair use?

Even though they outsourced the software, they were still responsible for it. They even denied at first that they'd done anything wrong.

> don't connect to the playstation network and you won't get the firmware upgrades.
Or play any new games.

> they patch a flaw for security reasons and they tell you this if you connect to psn.
Yeah, the security of their ability to control your device.

> keep a standalone ps3 and you can mod to your hearts content. this is why i owned 2 xbox 360s
You shouldn't have to buy two consoles just to exercise your consumer rights.

What the technology is designed for is irrelevant in the face of what it does and what it's used for. And there are substantial legitimate reasons to jailbreak your PS3 that aren't piracy, including game backups and homebrew. To say that it is somehow wrong for someone to crack their PS3 purely because they might use it to pirate is silly.