Regarding Live performances - This isn't always the band's fault, although I haven't been to see either of those bands in person, but I have been to several venues where the guy behind the mixing desk is spot on, and the experience is far, far better than any recording. Conversely, the same bands in a different venue and some sort of bespectacled Human-Gorilla hybrid behind the desk, seemingly randomly playing with knobs and sliders have rendered the performance absolutely abysmal.