I suppose this means that the answer to the ancient Question:: Does the light in the 'fridge really go out when I close the door is: NO :)

Other: Slackware64 14.2 + Multilib

A.C. --

Please define primitive, very little effort and manual intervention.

I can have a fully functioning Slackware system up and running in 30 min, including formatting the HDD with very little manual intervention.

Slackware 14.2 is about to be released. It boots either BIOS or EFI and runs Linux 4.4.11 and a number of Desktop Environments, all without systemd.

There is now a set of 'slackware live' ISO images where I can run with persistence and optionally encrypted from a USB Drive:

http://docs.slackware.com/slackware:liveslak/

a complete 64bit Slackware-current Live Edition (in a 2.6 GB ISO);
a slimmed-down XFCE ISO (700 MB) with XDM as the graphical login manager. It fits on a CDROM medium or a 1 GB USB stick;
an ISO image (3.1 GB) of Slackware64-current containing Plasma 5 instead of KDE 4, with an addition of several other packages from the alienBOB repositories: vlc, libreoffice, calibre, qbittorrent, ffmpeg, chromium, openjdk, veracrypt.
a Mate variant (1.7 GB) where KDE 4 has been replaced by Mate (a Gnome 2 fork);
a Cinnamon flavour (a fork of the Gnome 3 Shell replacing Slackware's KDE 4).
a Custom variant which you can give your own name, its own package list and custom post-install configuration.

When I like what I see, there is an option to install liveslak to the HDD.

As I said Slackware 14.2 is about to be released. This version has succeeded in leaving systemd out while still being able to run the most recent releases of upstream Apps.

Have you actually looked at Slackware ?

There's a lot to like.

-- kjh

Except that US Tax Rates are too high ...

Microsoft said: "With the free Windows 10 upgrade offer ending on 29 July, we want to help people upgrade to the best version of Windows ...

trust us ...

yes

Who watches the watchers ?

There are enough REAL security issues floating around without getting our panties all in a wad over an issue that requires PHYSICAL access to the Console and Keyboard on a machine that has already been rebooted ...

Along the same lines, even after this 'Zero-Day' is repaired, if I can access the Console and Keyboard, I can access the Boot Menu, and boot from a Thumb-Drive and then do everything I could do via the Grub2 Bug.

Sheesh !

-- kjh

What Perl did was definitely an improvement over /bin/sh where the nmemonic ( ex: -gt ) works on integers while the symbolic ( > ) works on strings ...

http://www.informationweek.com/it-life/11-programming-languages-that-lost-their-mojo/d/d-id/1321678?f_src=informationweek_informationweek_mostpopular_fornewsletters&_mc=NL_IWK_EDT_IWK_daily_20150822&cid=NL_IWK_EDT_IWK_daily_20150822&elq=70d72d20140f4602a92820472e5c17fa&elqCampaignId=16221&elqaid=62985&elqat=1&elqTrackId=35c8af5f447d4d2a8f19ad601c98a3be/

There ... Fixed that Typo for ya

Should we be asking ourselves what's the point of recycling ?

The only answer that makes sense to me is that we should recycle to save raw materials and ultimately the energy required for processing those materials.

We might want to factor in trash control but that is intangible and recycling does not reduce trash by the side of the road..

And minimizing the space used for landfill is another intangible. Modern landfill science seems to provide a way to reclaim otherwise unusable land for useful purposes.

If it costs more to recycle used materials than it does to bury the discarded material in a landfill and start with fresh raw materials, then what is the point of recycling ?

Here is a head-scratcher: There are two garbage trucks for my neighborhood.

Every Monday, truck #1 arrives to pick up garbage, then every-other week, a second truck arrives to haul away materials for recycling ...

How much does that second truck truly cost compared to the savings obtained from the list materials we're told we can recycle ?

Without doing a detailed cost analysis, the life-cycle of an object made of glass comes to mind ...

Compare the cost of collecting and burying used glass in a landfill and then processing fresh sand into new glass vs collecting and reprocessing used glass -- does it really make sense to recycle old glass ?

I dunno ... just wondering ...

-- kjh

... Sure, that's functionally the equivalent of performing "sudo cat /var/log/messages", but of course one could run "sudo less /var/log/messages" and obtain the powerful features of less, such as forward and backward navigation, and not

Alas ... this was true until the systemd virus infected Linux Machines ...

-- kjh

IX - You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

It's time this politically motivated Bullshit stopped !

Try the 'Expert Witness' Bastards who gave the Testimony as well as their Supervisors.

Execute them if it can be proved that there was malicious intent.

Maybe this: Bind them and throw them in a pond. If they drown there was no malice. If they do not drown they are a wiitch^h^h^h^h^h^h^hguilty and should be remanded to death row.

-- kjh