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Comment Countable reals and all that (Score 1) 186

Kurzweil believes in Strong AI which, amongst its absurdities, appears to claim that the reals are countable. In more detail, the continuity of consciousness that we experience is inexplicable in a universe in which Strong AI could be true. Unfortunately the proof is a little complicated and I haven't got all the fine detail figured out yet.

Comment Apple may not have ripped this off. (Score 2, Interesting) 549

Firstly, Apple may have rejected the app precisely because they were already developing the technology for iOS5 and knew that a syncing app would be redundant when iOS5 came out (and may have got into more trouble by allowing the app and then bringing out wireless sync technology in iOS5 when an app already provided the functionality.) Also, a third party app is not the place for this technology: it should be embedded in iOS5 as Apple are doing. Secondly, the logo combines the wireless logo (which is standard and is not an invention of this student) with the sync logo (two arrows round a circle) which is again standard and predates this student's app. Combining the two in the obvious way makes sense and it is hard to think of a better way of doing it. Again, Apple may have been developing this in house before this app and thus were right to reject it as they would an app that duplicates current built in functionality of iOS.

Comment Re:Electrons cause consciousness. (Score 1) 729

Even then, you have to look critically at the assumptions that the math you refer to makes. All rational reasoning requires assumptions, and depends on the soundness of these assumptions for the reliability of its conclusions. It has been proven that, if X, Y, Z, T, (whatever these assumptions are), then if free will exists in the sense of a human observer being able to choose, then free will exists in some sense at the quantum scale.

Comment Re:Electrons cause consciousness. (Score 1) 729

All consciousness relies on electrons. You cannot have consciousness without electrons. So this would be one place to look.

But you cannot say that you can understand consciousness given only an understanding of electrons -- they are only a link in the chain.

But basically, if you don't have quantum consciousness you can't have consciousness on higher scales. So on some level these particles have self recognition even if it's through us. This doesn't answer whether or not there is free will, but the math is clear that if there is consciousness on the large scale it will also have to exist on the quantum scale. It's also proven mathematically that if free will exists on the large scale that it also has to exist somewhere somehow on the quantum scale.

For this reason, the fact that the math supports it, it's worth doing research and experimenting on. The problem or fear I have is if we did discover what particle or wave function is responsible for consciousness, or how, we'd have governments around the world using these discoveries to enslave and oppress people. It's the kind of question that I'd personally want to know the answer to, but I also recognize that as soon as we find the answer, it will open pandora's box which governments and corporations intend to completely exploit.

I share that fear

If we found a way to for example give consciousness to inanimate objects, or a way to have complete control over life in some way, or if we discovered that quantum computers could be made conscious, it would change everything probably for the worst because governments would then use this technology to enslave rather than use it in a transhumanist fashion. It would be used to make the perfect cyborg slaves, who have the mix of human consciousness, with the absolute obedience of a programmable robot. In essence this discover could lead to the end of "free will" as we know it, and lead to the beginning of technological slavery.

I suspect, but cannot prove, that consciousness requires, in order to be able to affect physical reality, as a foundation, something with a non-discrete complexity like what we see in the brain.

And unfortunately no political party is truly anti slavery. So we'd be collectively fucked.

Sources Quantum Entanglement Can be a Measure of Free Will The same experiments that reveal the nature of entanglement can also be interpreted as a measure of free will, say researchers.

Do subatomic particles have free will?

This means that the particle cannot have a definite spin in every direction before it’s measured, Kochen and Specker concluded. If it did, physicists would be able to occasionally observe it breaking the 1-0-1 rule, which never happens. Instead, it must “decide” which spin to have on the fly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind

When he wrote his first book on consciousness, The Emperor's New Mind in 1989, Penrose lacked a detailed proposal for how quantum processing could be implemented in the brain. Subsequently, Hameroff read Penrose's book, and suggested that microtubules could be suitable candidates for quantum processing. The Orch-OR theory arose from the collaboration of Penrose and Hameroff in the early 1990s. Microtubules are the main component of a supportive structure within neurons known as the cytoskeleton. In addition to providing a supportive structure, the known functions of microtubules include transport of molecules including neurotransmitters bound for synapses and control of the development of the cell. Microtubules are composed of tubulin protein dimer subunits. The tubulin dimers each have hydrophobic pockets that are 8 nm apart, and which may contain delocalised pi electrons. Tubulins have other smaller non-polar regions that contain pi electron-rich indole rings separated by only about 2 nm, and Hameroff claims that these electrons are close enough to become quantum entangled.[11] Hameroff further proposed that these electrons could become locked in phase, forming a state known as a Bose-Einstein condensate.[12][13] Furthermore, he thought that condensates in one neuron could extend to many others via gap junctions between neurons, thus forming a macroscopic quantum feature across an extended area of the brain. When the wave function of this extended condensate collapsed, it was suggested that this could give access to non-computational influences related to mathematical understanding and ultimately conscious experience that are embedded in the geometry of spacetime.

All consciousness relies on electrons. You cannot have consciousness without electrons. So this would be one place to look.

Comment Re:Where is this going to end (Score 1) 195

Someone made a post elsewhere saying that the trend list is based not on mentions per second, but in the increase in mentions per second. Anonymous Footballer's (I'm in England BTW) lack of presence is probably because he is being tweeted slightly less now than when this really broke out. Just a thought. (We don't know how the trending algorithms work in detail, so we can't tell from behaviour whether they are being interfered with.)

Comment Re:no substitute for the real thing (Score 1) 585

Those were the days, we even had someone at one LAN party with his computer set up at the top of the stairs because of limitations as to where machines could go due to the coax cables available to us. In the next house, we ordered an 8 port hub and took up the floorboards to wire in the rooms, with a 486 linux pc in the closet downstairs as our internet router.

Comment Re:Schizophrenia simplified for dogma-logic[1+1... (Score 1) 143

In the many decades that psychiatry has been around, there is insufficient evidence of this: brain changes are caused by the drugs, not the condition. The mind body problem has plagued philosophy for many years and the materialist reductionist way of explaining it away as just brain chemistry is far from proven. Until we can answer that, we cannot hope to seriously try to pin down mental health issues as brain diseases or perhaps something else. We may never truly understand since the complexity of the overall behaviour of the brain is still well beyond what we can deal with.

Comment Re:Forgetting dreams (Score 2) 143

I've been on antipsychotics for a while, and I can attest to the fact that my memory is significantly worse than before I was on them. Part of the action against schizophrenia (not me, since I am diagnosed bipolar) seems to be reducing what you can recall in the hope of reducing the disruptive memories that one could think that schizophrenics recall. That said, far too little is known about mental health issues for anybody (professional or otherwise) to really say anything concrete.

Comment Re:REALITY: SCHIZOPHRENIA REDUCES MEMORY (Score 1) 143

And similar things can be said for Bipoler Disorder(s). I've often described psychiatry as a quasi-religious, pseudo-scientific cult that believes in drugs. Big Pharma knows it is in their interest to maintain that situation. Arguing with a psychiatrist can often seem like trying to debate evolution with a hardcore creationist.

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