Sexual harassment is a huge issue for female students/workers. One girl to a dozen guys, you're going to get hit on, a LOT.

Getting chatted up and being sexually harassed are not even remotely the same thing.

Then it seems we agree ;)

The point is that ignoring the convenience aspect is completely artificial and ultimately pointless.

...if the convenience factor wasn't part of the equation.

Isn't this largely the point? Who the hell is making a decision to purchase this based on book cost?

You listen to me! You bug...!!

Fuck that.

I want 5 megawatts by mid-May.

Yeah...because dodgy hedge funds collaborating with unscrupulous rating agencies to leverage fraudulent securities is the same thing as byzantine transportation laws.

Did he even know SANS existed?

The inquirer did say:

...online searches haven't been very helpful...

This ain't my area either but googling for:

corporate vpn policy

produces sans' example policy as the first hit. As such, it looks to me like the OP was in order.

Dammit...I know I forgot to do something after that post ;)

Find a free domain and name your product after it.

Hint: it'll probably be spelt strangely.

Because that would imply that your favourite language is a failure, and you find that conclusion unacceptable?

Hardly.

My personal tastes don't enter into it. I've slung enough (read hundreds of KLOCs) C or C++ to recognize the fact that its commercial success is more of an historical accident than a testament to its characteristics. Also, I'm something of a dilettante when it comes to Lisp; however, that hasn't kept me from appreciating its merits.

Lisp is a power tool for a Very Smart Person. Like all such tools, they're difficult to master. The truly successful stuff tends to be usable in an effective manner by people who aren't VSPs.

I think we're in agreement here. However, again, this doesn't speak to the technological "disposition" of the language. In fact, this seems contrary to your point about the marketplace favoring the best technology.

Then, if market performance and superior technology have nothing to do with each other, why should anyone invest their money in research? Or are you saying that all technology is performance art, and we may as well paint our bodies paisley and recite poetry from lightposts, because it's just as useful?

This is pure sophistry.

So you don't dig Lisp: fine. However, trying to defend the idea that economic success implies technological superiority is wholely without merit.

If Lisp were that good, it would have done better in the marketplace.

Please.

Market performance has fuck all to do with the success of superior technology. Case in point: the Amiga.

Yes.

They're one time use.