I'm with you on this. I want my old man cars back, now that I'm an old man.

It's expensive to move away from your bread and butter. The big automakers have been understandably dragging their feet.

But, they've got to get going soon (which seems to be what's happening now), or they'll go the way of the dodo.

I wouldn't dare short TSLA. Too many people emotionally invested to apply logic and reason to that ticker.

I don't know that the company will remain successful over the long haul. They seem to have scaling and quality issues. I have a feeling once the big automakers get their EV's in play, life's going to get much more difficult for Tesla.

They could be like Tucker, Nash, or Studebaker. Great products, but the companies still did not survive against the competition.

You're right. When I typed, successfully inoculated, I meant that the waiting period for the vaccine to take full effect had already happened. Yes, that period of time between getting the shot(s), and then the shots taking effect, is a period where one could become sick, and spread the virus. Sorry, I wasn't more clear.

I see the asymptomatic term tossed around by a lot of people who seem to equate it with someone who is not sick. They don't seem to understand that the term means someone who has contracted the disease, but doesn't display symptoms.

There is no value to giving a vaccine shot to someone who is already sick. At that point you are just injecting more work for your immune system to process.

If your body has an actual instance of the real thing to use as a blueprint, a vague partial model of the real thing isn't going to be helpful.

I'll give you that D's did try to lock things down, however, they were wholly unsuccessful in that endeavor due to partisan and greedy behavior taking precedence over logical behavior. The lock-downs that could have worked, did not work, due to lack of bilateral participation (along with other fringe dissenters).

The rest of your points are complete bullshit. This pandemic could have been under control (not gone, but under control) months ago, if only dipshits stopped being selfish, and agreed to cooperate for a couple of months. We could have had a lot of commerce and education back to normal, or at least a close approximation of normal, by now.

I just noticed that I left out vaccination as being an action to keep us from being exposed. (Technically, exposed, but immune.)

We are not in control of our immune system's long-term ability. (Some of it is hereditary, but how do you control that?)

The only options we have are to be exposed to the virus/bacteria and hope our immune/reactionary systems carry the day, or to take actions known to keep us from being exposed to those nasty things in the first place.

If I can avoid being sick, that is the route I want to pursue.

No. That is a grossly overblown point of view. Once everyone that can be vaccinated has been vaccinated, then it is time to put away the masks, and resume normal life. Unless some other new superbug comes along, then the other social distancing measures (except the hand washing - you pigs) can be relaxed, too.

The message will only resonate with those enough common sense to heed it.

The others are a lost cause. All you can do is try.

Damn! I wish I could mod your comment up to (50, Indisputable).

Give yourself a couple of weeks. It would suck to contract the disease after the second shot because you didn't let it 'cook' long enough.

I'm not sure that concern is valid. Logic says that it isn't likely that a successfully inoculated person can be an asymptomatic carrier, as that would require actually contracting the disease which they are supposedly immune, and then propagating live virus to others.

Perhaps true. Takeaway: If you are going to face charges for defending your turf, make that shot count.

You can damn well bet there are multiple forensic backups of Parler's bullshit website and data. Anybody who thinks amazon would just flip a switch, or type a command, and push the data to oblivion is a complete moron.

Those of you who left incriminating evidence are well and truly fucked, if it comes down to it.