I'm not a republican or a democrat. I think I used to be a liberal, but now find I'm considered a centrist or a libertarian depending on whos lens i'm view through. TBH, i'm not sure what the hell I am.

Quite a few other things are pretty obvious to me beyond those two topics but in the end it doesn't matter, I'm not here to convert anyone. I just don't see how anyone could actually look in the mirror and call themselves a democrat at this point. Ok, you hate trump and the republicans and further right wing people. I get it, but I don't see the blatant voter schannagins that this party has been exposed of.

Getting aid from other countries to tweak or do something relevant to a parties interest, I'm sure both are guilty of (we also interfere in lots of other countries as well, so you might call that just the nature of the beast, lots of groups that self identify are going to help each other, it doesn't matter what country they come from. Just look at any hard leaning left or right ultra rich person from some other country and see what groups they fund...everyone has an agenda).

For the democrats though....Its quite another doing it so blatantly on the domestic side, and its not specious allegations, look at any voter party heat map and look at the upsets and you tell me. This isn't mental gymnastics stuff, its more like occams razer stuff.