Y'know, I've watched as the left has argued the morality of Russia, in the Korean War (citing civilians killed by the US), in Iranian revolutions (never mentioning the KGB-supported power grab), in the VIetnam War (where they've taught forty years of history dividing the two sides into the good guys who the KGB supported, which conducted purges of the population after the war, and America), the various Central American communist parties, which are paragons of social justice until their economies collapse like Venezuela...

We even enacted a so-called peace deal with Iran where we released large amounts of money to them and the next _month_ suddenly Russia had the funds to bomb rebels in Syria at Iran's behest.

But suddenly, in the year 2016, after all that, it's important that we fight Russia, after giving them all those countries (never mind that they couldn't even hold onto the ones in Eastern Europe besides Belarus) and even giving (via Iran) the money to keep their Air Force afloat in bombs to drop on civilians.

Hell, they're all groups Assad was arming when they were fighting us.

I thought InfoSec was from 1984, not Brave New World?

Did I miss the part where there was a war between Vietnam and China in the late 70's as a result of China's support for the Khmer Rouge's genocide?

Worse than that. One of the principal public spokesmen for the movement to sell out South Vietnam (along with Cambodia and Laos) to Russia is now pretending to object to the base's use by Russia, as if he cares about such things, and it's not only being reported with a straight face by the media and places like Slashdot, but it's being accepted with a straight face by people like you. I find this to be a veritable tsunami of ignorance about the history of the era and John Kerry's role in it.

The Senate and the House both were Democrat at the time. But I want to see the list of Republicans who voted for it too, because primaries are coming up.

I just checked Wikipedia, according to which Bush vetoed the linked "Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008" on May 21, 2008, and had the veto overridden the same day, by a Congress run by Nancy Pelosi and whoever was Senate leader then. (checking... oh, Harry Reid). While I am anxious to find out which Republicans did vote for that bill, it looks like Bush didn't.

If that's the wrong bill I'd like to know about it, since they seem to be linking to it in every story I see on this issue.

BTW, before you knock it as a strategy... it worked for getting the United States to abandon Vietnam to serfdom to the Russian Mob (whether it's pretending to be 'communist' or not this week). Not to mention many other conflicts around the globe, up until the present day.

Well, this is what I see forwarded to me from a Russian friend here in the West:

http://maidantranslations.com/...

If this is true, the takeovers are being done in such a manner that a) it generates a lot of bad publicity for the Ukranians if they resist ("They're shooting civilians!") and giving Russia a pretext to take away the Eastern part of the country, which is mixed Ukranian and Russian.

"The flight in question had GPS tracking for flight arrival information.
It went dead the same time as everything else. (EMP pulse?)"

Based on the reports I read yesterday, the pilot turned off the location transponder and took a right angle turn on a course that's roughly headed towards Bandar Aceh. (I think that's how it's spelled). The initial post's idea would work well if the plane only had mechanical difficulties and crashed. This does not seem to be the case; it was on the other side of the Malay Peninsula from where it was supposed to be when the military radar lost it; that wasn't something it did because of mechanical difficulties or engine failure.

Texas is named for Tiles, because one of the earliest parts settled had red soil suitable for making roofing tiles from. Spanish has shifted its spelling/prononciation a bit between then and now.

Yup, them and the Kulaks. I hear they've got lots of grain.

Uh, last I checked, the people who actually wrote this law lost control of the House (but not the Senate) three years ago.

You look as if you're trying to blame the current Congress for a law they didn't write and furthermore oppose.

"What would have them spinning at 5000 rpm in their graves is Guantanamo Bay, not this trial and public reaction."

Well, except for Benjamin Franklin, who argued against trading his Loyalist POW son William Franklin to the British during the war. Washington overruled him on that, btw. (Seriously: look it up on Wikipedia, it's interesting).

I must have missed the part where the government of North Korea was truly democratic instead of a bunch of despotic thugs installed by Russia and China back in the Cold War.