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Comment: Re:Stop trying to win this politically (Score 1) 786

by microbox (#48788451) Attached to: Michael Mann: Swiftboating Comes To Science

. Climate "science" on the other hand does exactly what you describe here. It looks at past data and attempts to fit it to a hypothesis. That's not science at all.

You are talking about one small vein of climate science -- and creating and testing models is actually science. It's part of "signal processing". I know you will get distracted by that last comment. So again, and speaking very, very, slowly. Modeling is a tiny part of climate science, and the AGW hypothesis does not depend on it in the slightest. See here and here.

Comment: Re:Stop trying to win this politically (Score 1) 786

by microbox (#48788395) Attached to: Michael Mann: Swiftboating Comes To Science
No amount of sound argumentation will help you phantom, because, as we both know, you are only interested in tickling your own motivated reasoning. It doesn't matter that the AGW theory doesn't rely on models. It doesn't matter surface temperature has next to nothing to do with it. It doesn't matter that 2014 was warmer than 1998, when there was no El Nino in 2014, and a record El Nino in 1998.

What matters is that you are right, and you are going to prove it, no matter what.

Comment: Re:"Could", (Score 1) 401

by microbox (#48596745) Attached to: The Shale Boom Won't Stop Climate Change; It Could Make It Worse
They don't see it as pollution, but an assault on the very moral fabric of their being. If they are wrong about AGW, so then think about the consequences!!! TEH SOCIALISM!!! And so the cogs turn in the mind of the ideologue who, with no trace of irony sees themselves as balanced, nuanced and reasonable. Hence all the projection and gnashing at teeth.

Comment: Re:"Could", (Score 2) 401

by microbox (#48596733) Attached to: The Shale Boom Won't Stop Climate Change; It Could Make It Worse
It only takes a microsecond for a claim to be generated, and another microsecond of the ideologue to convince themselves it is true based on its pleasant chime. It takes forever to disprove the claim because, as the Japanese say, he who doesn't listen cannot hear. Thus it is, has been, and always will be. I'm convinced that the name "homo sapian" is a failed attempt at irony.

Comment: Renewables are cheaper than you think (Score 1) 401

by microbox (#48596709) Attached to: The Shale Boom Won't Stop Climate Change; It Could Make It Worse
You probably believe that renewables can never compete with carbon energy on price alone -- unsubsidized. The simple truth is that after subsidies are removed, only gas can compete with renewables. Gas wins handily, for now. The main obstacle for renewables in that the USA needs more high voltage capacity -- blocked by the nimby crowd -- to move electricty across the country. With more high voltage power lines, it would quickly start to cost more to mine and ship coal to existing coal power plants than build wind power. Solar is close behind, and the prices are coming down fast.

Now it is not true that the above pricing estimates are purely subsidy free. Coal, oil and natural gas are still given huge subsidies in the calculations: private profits, socialized losses. You see, coal/oil/gas does not pay for the significant health burdens, or the trillions in wars. And that is leaving aside using the atmosphere as a free waste tip.

If your main concern about climate change action is "ruining the economy", then pull your head out of partisan news sources, and go look at the actual figures that businesses and governments use to make decisions. Most economists believe that climate action costs are negligible, but that not doing anything will cost a lot -- starting with all the beachfront property on the East coast, which will have moved in land within 100 years.

Comment: Re:Fire all the officers? (Score 5, Interesting) 515

by microbox (#48582797) Attached to: Once Again, Baltimore Police Arrest a Person For Recording Them
Yeah, the police feel they are under assault. Yet there is almost a live-stream of police abusing the moral privilege they are given, even though the job is far safer than many other jobs. I've seen a good friend enter the police, and adopt the cultural talking points. There are real systemic problems with how police do their jobs, and how interrogations and prosecutions are done -- and at no point do police seem willing to accept any criticism or feedback at all. If there is video evidence, then the problem is that there is video evidence.

Comment: Re:Senate approves international treaties (Score 1) 145

by microbox (#48445081) Attached to: Prospects Rise For a 2015 UN Climate Deal, But Likely To Be Weak
Yeah, I think that "skeptic" groups specifically target slashdot as a way to skew the conversation in their favor. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." -- Russell

Comment: Deal is the opposite to what you think. (Score 1) 145

by microbox (#48445037) Attached to: Prospects Rise For a 2015 UN Climate Deal, But Likely To Be Weak
The deal is actually the opposite. America doesn't really need to do much to meet Obama's target. The natural market-driven growth of renewables will do it, so long as the GOP doesn't play pick the winners and losers by slapping regulations. (*cough* Kansas *cough*). It may well cost the US consumer $0. China, on the other hand, is deploying huge amounts of new energy, and will fundamentally need to shift their plan in order to have emissions peak in 2030. But they want to do it anyway, since -- pollution, and they will be at the bleeding edge of renewables technology with will own carbon by 2030. Heck, wind is already price parity with coal, and solar is dropping fast. See Levelized cost of electricity by source. And I say all of this knowing that you cannot understand it, because you are a "skeptic" with the "truth". (Somehow not a contradiction -- but that's human nature for you.)

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