that doesn't matter

that the problem is hidden does not mean the problem doesn't need to be dealt with

are you saying do nothing and allow such people to continue to pilot?

that's stupid

keeping someone who is mentally ill out of a job with responsibility over human lives has absolutely nothing to do with the holocaust

i agree

so give a financial incentive to self-report. that discretion and confidence will be maintained. that graceful financial transition would be supported. because the company would rather deal with that, much cheaper than a PR fiasco, lawsuits, destroyed equipment, etc

enforce that approach by law even

then you are left with the truly deep in denial types. those who think they can beat their illness, or that continuing in their job is proof they have things under control, until they don't. these are people who might have even been attracted to the job of airplane pilot in the first place, as a proof to themselves they can maintain great responsibility in the face of stress

so the problem becomes one like pedophiles in the priesthood: in some ways, the priesthood attracts well-meaning individuals who think the religious purity will allow them to beat an affliction they know they have. of course, human weakness prevails in the end

or pedophile teachers

or sadistic cops: you know you get a thrill abusing and dominating, so you're attracted to the police force

these are difficult problems

but that doesn't mean we tolerate pedophile priests/ teachers, sadistic police, or mentally ill pilots. it just means it is hard to root them out when they have an incentive to hide

mental illness is not a matter of a burst blood vessel, you don't understand the topic

and it doesn't matter if they get treatment or not. they cannot be trusted with human lives

although, there should indeed be an amnesty program such that reporting their problem means they don't get immediately fired or otherwise lose income

because then you're right: this is a disincentive to self-report. i don't know, maybe an incentive program to self-report? financially, the company would rather be on the line for gracefully financially transitioning a troubled employee, rather than dealing with the PR, lawsuits, direct costs, etc., of a downed plane. so the company has an incentive to reward the employee for self-reporting, and the company should do that. that should be enforced by law even

but allowing them to keep their position? no, completely unacceptable. if it is shown you have mental health issues, there is no way you should be allowed to be responsible for human lives

1. doctors and psychologists who do reviews for organizations that have employees with major responsibilities: the military, nuclear plants, airlines, etc, they should be required to inform employers

2. then, employers who have employees they know have mental problems *have* to remove them from job positions where loss of life is easily caused. if that means removing them from the only field they are trained to work in, so be it. time to get a new career in a new field

it's not discrimination. it's safety. there was apparently warnings that mental health evaluators and employers knew that this guy had serious depression. he should simply never have been allowed to continue to be a pilot

is that fair? is it fair 150 people are dead? if you have mental problem, i sympathize. but you should not be trusted with my life

you don't hire asthmatics to do heavy lifting in dusty places, you don't hire albinos to work in the sun, you don't hire amputees for typing jobs. and you don't hire people with mental disorders to fly airplanes

some people have medical conditions which preclude them from certain lines of work. if you have major depression, you should not be allowed to have any job where you can easily cause loss of life. you should not be a commercial pilot. period

it's rather shameful german law does not reflect this, or any other country for that matter. i hope these familes sue. the german government, the airline industry, and Germanwings screwed up, and they need to receive a heavy reprimand on the only terms they understand: financial ones

that's utterly lame

well, now we know how to make our STEM programs #1 and better than finland

swords for everyone!

yeah but...

doctoral swords

dude!

you're saying the democrats gave universities more money and this *caused* tuition rates to go up?

do you even try to think about the ignorant propaganda that is fed to you?

university costs have risen at all universities. why have they risen at private ones genius?

you don't understand the topic, nevermind basic cause and effect

and now that republicans are cutting funding, where do you think they will make up income? where do you think bright poor kids with good grades will go to school now? oh right, fuck them, they're daddy doesn't contribute to a PAC

do you see the fucking slashdot topic we're commenting under right now? do you see the problem? do you think countries that have good STEM programs are cutting funding to education? how much do children in those countries pay for higher education? evil "socialist" countries?

braindead republicans, ruining the country

terrorists took down the world trade center with boxcutters

you don't seem to understand what determination means

seriously

this is the terrorist attack of 2215 or 2315

i'm no luddite, technological advance gives us just as much good as bad

but as we advance further and further, the power to do greater and greater good, and greater and greater evil, will be in the hands of smaller and smaller groups of people

such that some deranged cult will be able to kill us all in a few centuries. and then one of them will choose to do that

man, we really have to get off this planet

we need an insurance policy badly

unfortunately, republican state houses across the country are cutting down on funding state universities

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

etc., etc.

so tuition will increase and quality will decrease, and those who are bright but come from limited backgrounds will wind up working in retail or fast food instead of becoming good STEM candidates

of course, this makes sense, as poor and stupid is the republican base

copy finland

whatever they do, we do the same

#1 thing we should copy from finland's universities:

https://www.jyu.fi/en/academic...

i mean, that's just awesome. if we gave our graduates swords, i think they would try harder, right?

all joking aside, we really should just copy finland

fuck japan, it's a closed society and a stifling culture that doesn't have anything to translate to our own

but finland, we can just copy their system wholesale

yup, well said

the door should stay

as you say, an unlocked door does not prevent suicidal-homicidal pilots, but does prevent murderous hijacking

or look at norway and breivik. norway has good gun laws

but the point isn't to do away with the chance of bad things completely. the point is to reduce the number of incidents

if we have good compliance with seatbelt laws, injuries go down. we can't make injuries 0% though. so no one should wear a seatbelts? seatbelts are a horrible liberal government intrusion into our lives, into our laps, evil and freedom destroying? or just common fucking sense?

same with guns laws: do the bare minimum to ensure you're dealing with a responsible, trained person, then give them a gun

bad things will still happen

but far less bad things than the usa's current status quo of too loose gun laws

proof: the experience of all of our social and economic peers

"well-regulated militia"

what exactly is confusing to you about that term you purposefully ignorant fuck?

the entire world looks at us gun laws as a joke. we suffer unnecessary deaths due to guns every day. the clear intent of the founders is not our status quo. all of the lies about the benefits are guns are outweighed by the obvious facts of the hell of too many easy guns

we will have the founder's intent. is not what you want, irresponsibly