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Comment Re:Bargain (Score 1) 735

Yeah, my current employer "bought" me from a call center, over eleven years ago, for $36k. Now, I'm making nearly 3x that salary. I come and go when I please, essentially work on what I feel like working on, and I get to be an asshole and a curmudgeon, and noone can call me on it. There are benefits other than salary.

They enticed you away with a raise, and you stayed because you kept getting fair market value for your service. That was kinda my whole point.

What he ought to do is decide whether working for the new company benefits him more than working for the old company. Whether it's worth giving up the friendships, relationships, intangible benefits, and other goodies he's built up in exchange for the larger salary and the possibility of new intangible benefits down the road. Early this year, I took a new job with a giant financial firm, and while the pay was indeed nice, the working environment was NOT what it was cracked up to be. It was a nightmare, and so I returned here about about 10 weeks. Not everyone would have this opportunity, but in my case, I'm sure glad I did.

So, let me get this straight. Talking with your boss about another opportunity could be considered disloyal, but you actually left your current job for a better offer and then came back and you're advising others on what you consider to be company loyalty?

I would hardly consider these 4 links "accepted wisdom". The first link (Forbes) talks about some guy whose counteroffer was to be the CEO of a major multinational retailer. So what if he only had the job for 3 years? When your salary is $1m per year and you have a golden parachute bailout, 3 years as CEO is plenty of time to rack up some serious cash. It even mentioned that he took an early retirement. Oh, the horror. That sounds like just about the best possible outcome. CEO anecdotes are not really applicable for people working at the "peon" level.

Second link (frugaldad) is written by Jason (Frugal Dad) on his blog. His anecdote is that he was ready to receive a counteroffer, but he got laid off instead. He then goes on to contradict the belief that counteroffers are indicators of disloyalty in his second paragraph.

Third link (businessweek) is behind a paywall, or broken.

Fourth article (it.toolbox) was written by a recruiter who is obviously irritated by people who run through the whole recruitment process (thus wasting his time) and then stay with their current company due to a counter-offer. He ends the article with this:

"I hope that some of this dialoge hits home because these are some of the most frustrating issues to handle as a recruiter. I think they are all avoidable and can positively impact your career when handled in the right manner. These are principles to live by, like being honest and sticking to your word, and knowing thy self!"

And I think that speaks volumes. It's not accepted wisdom, it's one recruiter guy giving his opinion.

Whatever though. Of course, there are intangibles like the people you work with, that atmosphere, perks, and your general happiness. But OP didn't provide any background on most of that. Only that the commute was shorter and the pay is $7k more. My advice was to test the air - if his current employer is hostile to the idea, he can take that opportunity to give his notice and move on.

Comment Re:Bargain (Score 1) 735

Seriously? Is anyone at your current company under the illusion that you would not leave for a high enough offer? People can pretend all they want, but the reality is that your current employer bought you from your previous employer. Every new person they hire, they are hiring away from another company, likely at a higher rate. What's the big surprise here? Of course your skills are for sale - that's why you're working. If they are not willing to pay market value for your skills then move on.

I suppose I'm rather baffled by the whole logic here; what, then, should he do? Refuse the current job offer and stay where he's at, but keep it a secret? How does that prove loyalty at all? Nobody knows about it. Or he could refuse the current job offer and then tell his current employer he was offered a job somewhere else but refused. That just sounds needy and pathetic - does that prove loyalty? Or does that prove you're too chickenshit to stand up and ask for a reasonable raise? Or he could man up and explain the situation to his boss. If his boss has a clue and his workplace isn't a hellhole, they might offer him a small raise. If they are hostile to the whole idea, then he's better off quitting and moving on anyway. I've never had a problem discussing stuff like this with my boss, she is intelligent and reasonable and understands that I have bills to pay and a family to feed. I don't work for the love of working, I work because I need a paycheck. If I can get a bigger paycheck by negotiating a little bit, what's the harm in that? If you work at a company that considers something like this untrustworthy, then maybe you should reevaluate the situation.

Bottom line is anyone can be bought, period. The only question is the price.

Comment Re:Some math (Score 1) 62

"Evaporation" of the planet might depend on surface area as well. The surface area of a sphere can be represented by A = 4*pi*r^2, so as r->0, A->0 as well. The smaller the planet gets, the smaller the surface area, obviously.

A second consideration would be the amount of matter ejected per second in relation to total mass of the planet, and whether this stays constant. TFA does not list the diameter of the planet in question.

Something along the lines of m = (matter ejected per second), A = 4*pi*r^2, so m/A = ejection rate. Graph ejection rate as a function of varying r. If we knew the diameter of the planet, we could establish a baseline for ejection rate. Another measurement of diameter and ejection rate would give us a rough number.

Comment Re:Change the national Anthem (Score 2) 521

"Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free or the home of the slave?"

Subject: Stop Work Notice or Notice of Violation
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Dear sir,
On 7/22/2011 the State of Massachusetts posted a Stop Work Notice or Notice of Violation on your post for "illegal star-spangled banner pole height".
As of this date, no permits have been issued to clear the Stop Work Notice or Notice of Violation. You must apply for all required permits and approvals, pay all associated fees or take necessary action to correct the violation within 30 days of this notice. No permits, licenses, or other entitlements may be issues by any State Department until this violation has been cleared.

Sincerely,
The State of Massachusetts

I'm gonna say that's a no. No, it doesn't.

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