Comment Re:They are going big into alternative energy (Score 1) 163
Turn to Google and look up "king tides."
Turn to Google and look up "king tides."
If you want to accuse the HadCRUT team of fudging the numbers, hence your putting "adjustments" in scare quotes, kindly provide evidence.
Your choice of loolking at tropical temperatures and excluding polars is utterly disingenuous.
How about using the actual global means? Same site. Same interface. Global data instead of just the tropics (keep in mind the greenhouse effect does a lot more to the poles than the tropics.)
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1997/to/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1997/to/trend
" But wait, what do you think the research funded by industry is like? The scientists buy diamond rings and go cruising on a private luxury yacht? "
Research grants from the private sector do tend to be looser, but in the context of climate change, deniers are not getting grants to do research.
They're getting paid to write propaganda. And that comes with no strings attached, at all.
I'm pointing out that people were writing about the heat in Australia many, many years ago.
And Arabs have been writing poetry about the heat for centuries. What's your point?
If you were trying to make money from climate research and looked around to see which side would bring the most bucks, you would come to the conclusion that the global warmist side has the most to offer.
Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit.
First off, grant money from mainstream science organizations isn't handed with no questions asked. It's spent on gear (climate scientists neeed computers), and on tuition for the grad students.
But, if you're willing to lie about climate change, the deniers will pay you literally $5K an hour to go to a podium and deny. (Heartland Institute;s going rate)
those who think that the scientific community are all conspiring to earn big bucks from climate change,
Misdirection. Scientists are not the ones looking to cash in -- they are being used by those who are looking to cash in, which is big business.
So the scientists aren't pulling a con on us.
So they're right to tell us that CO2 warms the earth, and that warming makes the earth less hospitable to humanity.
Even if they are being used by malign interests, so fucking what?
In related news, changing weather patterns mean changing boundaries of where flood plains begin and end. Build above the flood plain, and teh flood plain can still come to you. Case in point: Calgary.
Pretty pathetic if all you can muster is what you were told in grade school. We are not "still coming out of the last ice age." If not for the greenhouse effect, right now we would be inching towards the next one. In fact, before the onset of the industrial revolution, we were indeed inching towards it.
"Science has data and experiments"
Some branches of science only have data. They're called Observational Sciences. Read the wikipedia entry on them.
" What did my physics professor always say? If you don't know how accurate your measurement is, you haven't made a measurement."
If you don't know what you're talking about, you don't know what you're talking about.
Hint: the 95% confidence figure isn't a measurement at all.
Notice the Dutch are not happy AT ALL about sea level rise, and who are among the people speaking out the loudest about the problem.
While you're at it, notice the Dutch don't drive much.
Oh, also: the range of the anopheles mosquito and various other tropical diseases is expanding. NOW.
"Doomsday" will always be some time away. But when it comes to costs and economic hardship, that's now. Right now.
The shipping lanes of the Mississippi have lost capacity to low river levels. NOW.
The Great Lakes have receded, forcing ships to travel with only half their usual tonnage. NOW.
Warming has gotten the barkbeetles to flourish in the Rockies, helping forest fires, killing forests, and exacerbating floods. NOW.
Pacific islanders are having to install rainwater collection because their groundwater is turning saline. NOW.
(And my low Slasdhdot UID should be proof enough that I am not speaking idly.)
Happiness is twin floppies.