Drupal is more of a platform that facebook, just sayin'

its all in core now - http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/

re MVC - DBTNG is a pretty solid db layer, adding TWIG as a templating engine disallows adding PHP on the View layer. hook_menu has always been a controller of sorts, and the move to Symfony routing solidifies that.

MVC is nothing special anyway.

Check out the lastest 8.x version by going to http://simplytest.me/project/drupal and choosing 8.x. The site will install 8.x-dev for you and you can play with it.

Some things to look at:

- In place editing
- CKeditor in core
- Responsive out of the box (check the new admin menu)
- Views in core

There's a heap of scary awesome changes going on in the backend though

- replacing lots of sub systems with Symfony components
- RESTFUL services by checking a checkbox.
- TWIG as a templating engine
- Configuration management initiative
- HTML5 and mobile
- Far better multilingual support than previous versions.

check out http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-initiatives for more info.

There's been a lot of discussion in the Drupal community recently about making major updates easier by offering backwards compatability, the consensus (best as I could tell) was that web technology is moving so fast that we need to be able to refactor quickly, though maybe in a few releases (6 years or so) Drupal will have completed the move to Symfony / OO and it will be worth looking at then.

I love Drupal & its community - I've been working with it professionally for 8 years or so, and the constant improvement in the tools keeps things interesting for me. I spend most of my time working on edge cases where modules don't quite work together and I submit a lot of small patches to improve them. I've got a lot better at grokking other peoples code - a talent I think is more valuable than 'writing my own cms from scratch', though I've done that before too. I also dabble in various other techs after hours to keep up with new languages, and run my blog on Wordpress. Wordpress horrifies me from a technical perspective, but I just want to post content, and using it keeps me focused on that, as opposed to tweaking my Drupal install all the time.

I used to freelance for smaller clients, but now i just refer them to Wordpress folks. They get better bang for their buck, and I don't have to deal with annoying budget overruns. Drupal is insanely good for big business who need complex workflows, asset management, community management, service integration and migration. Its really hard to build something that complex in a way that makes sense, stays stable and provides an upgrade path (however difficult that may be) and security support.

I feel your pain though :)

Good talk on this.

http://www.ted.com/talks/matthieu_ricard_on_the_habits_of_happiness.html

Zen Buddhism has been around for 1500 years or so. It focuses on the main teachings of the Buddha, which in themselves are not particularly mystical, at least in the sense of Gods and Heavens.

Buddhism by itself is an athiest religion - there is no such thing as God in a purely Buddhist worldview.

Often Buddhism is joined with another religion to meet that need for people. A couple of examples of this would be Bon in Tibetian Buddhism, and Shinto in the Japanese version.

For managing lots of Drupal sites (even across multiple servers) try the Aegir project, its close to a 1.0 release but is stable enough for production use now.

http://groups.drupal.org/aegir-hosting-system

Kind of related, check out Drush, which lets you manage drupal sites from a linux command line & drush_make which lets you create make files for drupal sites.

Drupal is very powerful, but its not for the faint-hearted.

Also, this move makes a lot of sense considering the upcoming Chrome OS will probably need some sort of VOIP capability.

I'm not sure I understand you post.

You've listed a set of classic public domain texts that have had non-public domain movies made out of them at various points. What are they evidence of?

I agree with the 14 years though. All for copyright reform.

I think this has been the most boring thread in Slashdot history. palegrey.net, I applaud you!

*sigh*

Its not about the profit made in the first year. Its about controlling culture.

If there was a massive public domain filled with all the cool movies made in the 80's, would we really bother to watch new ones as much?

Shorter copyright periods lead to less profit for these companies regardless.

That looks awesome. For $10 I'm gonna buy it. Also, fuck any person or business or business consortium who engages in frivolous lawsuits.