You mean the "blah blah blah and Pluto" definition? Because that was pretty much the definition for some time...

Yeah, yeah, I don't like it so it's "standard $FAV_NMY dismount".

In a healthy system society controls the government and the government controls powerful corporations. In a sick system corporations control the government, both control the society, nobody controls the corporations. Which kind of system seems closer to you?

Yes, without MS or Google's power the government couldn't have gotten involved. Obviously to you this makes all discussion moot, while I disagree. So it wouldn't get involved this time - too bad, but the alternative is worse.

It's interesting that you read an opinion on pros and cons of large-scale snooping as an anti-government rant. Shows your objectivity. Of course I had to involve the government - as I wrote previously, ability to trust it is quite crucial to assesment of the consequences of the situation described in the summary. Why would I rant about the US government? It's not mine. Won't put me in jail, unless I move to US, which is not likely (although with the level of cooperation between our governments maybe I'm a bit too optimistic about that).

I'm deeply sorry I've hurt your priceless views. Very mature of you to blow it off like that. All those great arguments you've presented, wow!

Think, disagree, try to convince me by showing why. Or think, disagree, ignore. I'm fine with both. But please, keep such empty "I disagree so shut up" to yourself. It's makes you look childish.

One fly in your ointment: last I checked Google and Microsoft were not the ones that actually put people in jail. The government does, that's its role.

If you trust the government fully, you really don't need to worry about things like that. They will not ask the corporations to do anything wrong, like identifying your political views, applying censorship, etc. Relax, it's just the corporations doing bussiness, probably searching for marketing clues in your data with that little extra functionality, which is good. If you don't want your data searched or at least don't want targeted ads, encrypt, don't use the cloud, or simply look for a cloud service with SLA which explicitly prohibits it (remember - you trust your government, so pacta sunt servanda, especially by corporations, as the government punishes the stronger players harder).

If you have any doubt about you government, however...The tradeoff becomes much less clear. Sure, in order for law enforcement to actually work, you have to allow some snooping, searching, arrests, etc... But you have to keep it under control and cry foul whenever the power seems to grow too much or is misused. Moving the snooping to corporations makes it unsupervised - the controls in constitutions of most countries are designed to limit the government, not private companies. If you can't trust your government to not use this against the people and to hit the companies hard if they misuse the data they collect, then this is a very worrying development.

In either case, however, it is incredibly stupid to expect your files in the cloud to be 100% private, unless you actually signed an agreement that explicitely says so and provides huge penalties (and I'd still be suspicious in that case). Not free for the company to share - sure, that's a possibility, but not free to look at? Doubt it. If you want it private, keep it private. Don't put it in the cloud or at least encrypt.

"Following that logic to the end" is also a slippery slope. Most decisions in life involve balancing incompatible goals. Playing on emotions is a great way to shift that balance, or rather get people to shift it themselves.

This.

I really do not understand it. How can people (hell, it seems like MOST people) not see that using anything like a storage facility removes any expectation of privacy unless there are clear regulations about that in the agreement? In real, physical world this is so obvious. Earlier you could count on laziness and scalability problems, but hey - automation!

I believe that the problem is we simply did not have the time yet to adapt to the thought that over less than a single generation processing went from a very costly activity to cheap routine stuff. We just didn't adapt to the growth of FLOPS/$ rate. For most of our history it was ok to do whatever you like, as long as you can keep it relatively quiet and don't make enemies. In the XX century we learned that anything can get you in deep trouble, but since the hunters are only human and limited, you'd need to provoke them somehow. Low profile can save your... rear parts. When will we realize that it's no longer true? It is more or less possible to process and analyse more or less everything now. Still costly, but possible. And the only change we can expect is growing accuracy (both FP and FN reduction) and deeper analysis. A police state was never that cheap.

No, whatever you were thinking about, it's not private. More and more the only thing that is private will be your own thoughts. But I guess that will change before 2100 as well...

Nah, not "to a police state". The difficult part of observing a slippery slope is the admission than "yup, we're mostly there". Otherwise you'll just lie to yourself until you're not just at the end of the slope, but anchored, settled and playing solitaire with a full family there.

That's the problem with highly emotional subjects (like pedophilia). You need to conciously limit your emotional response to them, otherwise you will accept as "lesser evil" things that are really a bigger problem.

Scale is what matters. A single child saved is a huge accomplishment? Hell yes. But even a thousand saved children is still just a tiny fraction of the children out there, while the lost freedom affects everyone - including all those children people think they think about. It's frighteningly difficult to deconnect from emotional response like that, but it is really the only way to limit the effects of manipulation.

It all boils down to one question - do you trust your government (all levels) to use such abilities wisely and responsibly? Because if you do, this really is good news. If you have any doubt, however...

And that's the funny thing. The US was literally built on distrust towards the government. That's the general spirit of your entire constitution and most of the amendments. And yet you seem to be one of the countries with the lowest backlash to things like that.

Moral outrage is a great thing. It's so emotional, so detached from reason, so easy to steer... And so universal. Works with muslims, catholics, hell, even atheists... Just needs a bit of tuning towards the target audience and the standads it accepts. And "think of the children" is gold - works practically everywhere, just adjust the wording.

Seriously, I must not be normal. This is clearly "for the children", there's really nothing morally disputable about this particular case. So, why can't I see it as progress? Why am I worried that it was automatically spotted?

I need to get my s... straight. Think of the children. Think of the children. The system is good for me. The good guys have nothing to worry about.

If you are right, then this lawsuit is simply one of several steps it will take to make Azure (and others) a complete failure in the EU market. If by using Azure you're subjecting yourself to US jurisdiction and accept responsibility for any breaches of EU law that result from this... Bye bye US-owned cloud services.

Go ahead, shoot yourselves in the foot. The US is burninig goodwill like there's no tomorrow...

Yeah, been there, seen that. Yes, I googled for a stationary bike. Guess what, I bought it. No matter how many times you show me an ad, I'm not going to buy another (at least until this one breaks).

I do not have a Facebook account, but I'm sceptical about targeting. Not just because I'm allergic to stalking (I might be). Just because I've seen it and it doesn't work. I mean Youtube.

I have to clean some youtube cookies every couple of weeks. I view sufficiently different content, that the algorithms they use simply backfire. As my browser window shows more and more "chosen for you" videos, I see less and less things I might want to view. I'm beginning to thing I'm really that atypical, since the things they pick are usually completely uninteresting to me, although I can probably retrace the reasoning behind the choice.

I have no idea if FB ads work the same way, but the ability to set "do not target" seems nice. Not nicer than not having an account and periodic cookie cleansing though.

Which makes this story even more interesting. In this case you're not adding antioxidants to your body, which might protect you or harm you, evidence for both has been reported. You're adding it to the food while it's being prepared, reducing the amount of PAHs, which are doubtlessly bad for you. More antioxidants in your body - open question. Antioxidants acting on your food before you eat it, removing other dangerous chemicals - clearly a good idea.

Analogy: drinking base to reduce bad effects of ingested acid - a very bad idea that might sound good. But add the right amount to the acid you're forced to drink with a gun pointed at you before drinking - tada.wav, you're basically safe, the worst outcome is that the result will be slightly poisonous (unless you prefer acid burns to mild diarrhea).

Ok, Nash equilibrium, finally the correct approach. But here's an interesting variation, seemingly very similar, but a bit harder: same probabilities, but introduce a third side with a predefined algorithm and infinite budget. The game still looks the same to you as the player: 50% rock, 50% human RPS player, but in fact suddenly the game depends on so many details...

The setting: you play RPS against a human opponent, but do not communicate with them directly - the interface is operated by the third side and only shows the choices (no chatting, etc). Your opponent is free to choose as he wishes. The operator intervenes with 50% chance (fair coin toss) by replacing your opponent's choice with rock (replacing rock with rock still counts as intervention). Of course the fact of intervention is not communicated to players.

Scoring rules: On "normal" rounds you and your opponent score against each other as in normal RPS. On "intervention" rounds you both score against the operator's budget. Your score depends on your choice vs. operator's rock. Your opponent's score depends on his original choice vs. your choice (so, yes, in this game you can both win/lose simultanously).

1. What is your best strategy in this game?
2. More interestingly: is the best strategy different if your opponent does not know about the existence of interventions (they change nothing visible on his side after all)? If you could tell him about it before the start of the game, would you?

That's my main question, but for the really bored, some more options. Consider a symmetric variant, where your choices as seen by your opponent also get replaced with rock randomly. Does the strategy depend on the operator's algorithm: option 1 - single throw decides no replacement vs. replacement in both directions, option 2 - separate throws for each direction, option 3 - always replace, single throw determines direction?

And what if your choices get replaced with something different than your opponents'? He 50% rock vs. you 50% paper, or he 50% rock vs. you 50% scissors?

And the most difficult one: review all these variants under "no ties" rule - in case of tie you replay the round, but the coin is not thrown again - if there was an intervention it will happen again, if there wasn't, it won't. This is a difficult variant - the same game might be a tie-resolving round for one player and a start of a normal round for the other, so you're never really sure whether your next round will get a throw. You will no longer see 50% rocks, the actual proportion depends on strategies of both players.

Man, coming up with such variations is fun. And details sometimes matter. Adding a side channel for communication between players also might change everything, as you can then cooperate against the operator... And from the player's point of view all these variants technically still fit within the bounds of the same simplified description: random choice of 50% rock, 50% human RPS player...

100 years? No, that's not how these problems scale. If it isn't P, then a macroscopic object (like the cat) is beyond our ability to simulate using deterministic Turing machines, period. The universe will not be habitable that long. Think about how many particles are involved, then realize that the algorithm scales exponentially. Even if our computers get a million times faster someday - so what, that's still not nearly enough. So, either we find a way to build fast and scalable nondeterministic Turing machines (we're nowhere near that goal) or the model is useless for macroscopic objects.

Yes, compression doesn't seem to be the likely reason, I'd look for other ones. But I'd be careful about using any publicly available comparisons of compression methods in this case, because it does not matter which one is better on average. The scientists know what to expect, how the image is likely to look, etc. They'd choose the best algorithm for this specific use case, and that might very well be a different one than for FB selfies... Not that I expect a huge difference anyway.

In other words it's time to start publishing your photos through your own account and others with false identification. Use different names. Make sure to reuse them at least often enough to make several options likely - if you use a different one every time, your own name on several photos will be enough to identify you. Use existing names, best ones would be of other people using this technique.

Build a large enough group of real people sharing their names and an even bigger pool of fake identities, automate selection of name to tag the photo. Let them sort THAT out.

Of course this is only good enough for screwing with their business data mining. For "targeted attacks", such as NSA trying to identify a person from an ananymous photo it doesn't help - they have different sources, you can't poison them all. Plus, if they can narrow it down to a short list of possible names, you're no longer facing this algorithm. After crosschecking with other, non-visual databases the most likely options will be reviewed by a living person. No, this approach is too weak to hide effectively.

Hell no. There's no comparison between Vista and 8 flops beyond the fact of being a flop.

Vista was an unbelievably badly executed step in the right direction. Bugs, half-baked ideas, better security done wrong, etc, etc... but essentially simply a next version after XP. With sufficient patches it becomes entirely usable and Windows 7 is essentially what Vista should have been. Failed version, not a wierd experiment.

8 is a completely different case. Total redesign of the interface, new APIs, new business model, etc. Very bad ideas, but very well executed. The system itself is quite good, fast, stable and well made, certainly not worse than 7. It is simply the wrong design, a forced change of the ecosystem. That's something you can't fix with technical patches. You either accept the fact and scrap the (huge and costly) project, releasing Windows 9 as Windows 7++ (or heavily patching 8 reverting it to old design, but that's a HUGE patch, essentially making it a different product), or clench your teeth and press forward, hoping that after some "tuning" of the UI users will follow you whether they want it on not.

Two completely different types of failures. Vista was the new Windows ME(*), Win 8 is the new Microsoft Bob (**).

(*) Except ME wasn't fixed by the next version like in Vista/7 case, because MS already had something new almost ready - having worked on the NT family in the server/workstation segment for years they were ready to deploy it on desktops (as XP), so fixing ME would be a waste of time.

(**) Except Bob was just another product, not a way towards a new sustainable business model for the company (the store)...