Terrible analogy.

TPB is not like a drug dealer. It is more like a street corner where the dealers have decided to set up shop. Or maybe better would be TPB is the yellow pages, where dealers decide to advertise. Or maybe...oh, never mind.

TPB does not "have illegal stuff", it simply points to places where you can download torrents from (note: you do not download torrents from TPB). The fact that a large proportion of those torrents are infringing on organizations' copyrights is not something that TPB has any control over.

Could TPB do things to remove "illegal" torrents from their listings? Possibly, but that is putting an onus on TPB that, IMO, they should not be required to do.

Bandwidth? I am quite certain that there are places on the interwebs that would be more than happy to host the downloads of artists...heck there might even be a business model in there somewhere....

THERE IS NO NEW ECONOMY. This is BASIC ECONOMICS: the cost of producing a copy of a digital item is ZERO, and basic economics says that the price of that item will tend to zero. Why in the world would anyone want to pay more than a token amount for something that costs NOTHING to make?

This is not about an "entitlement" on downloads. This is about the reality of the digital world.

And no one is telling artists they cannot make a living. The reality of the economics indicate that artists should not be relying on making profits off something that costs nothing to make and can be easily reproduced by anyone. Instead, focus on things that CANNOT be reproduced, and let the digital wares be your advertising for that SCARCE resource.

In what other profession does someone work for free and then look to make money by "selling" things that cost nothing and takes no effort? Stupid approach to business, so adapt. Otherwise you are fighting your fanbase, fighting technology, and fighting BASIC ECONOMICS.

Digital technologies have changed the world of recorded entertainment. Digital technologies offer HUGE efficiencies (equipment, production, storage, distribution). Yet the recording industries have not adjusted their business models to reflect those efficiencies. They have (or could) lowered their costs yet won't change their infrastructures such that those savings are passed to consumers.

Consumers recognize they are being fleeced, and the market is naturally circumventing the MASSIVELY INEFFICIENT processes of the 1950s.

You are buying the CD because you want to support the artist. You are specifically putting money into an INEFFICIENT SYSTEM because you want to support the artist.

Why not simply PayPal the artist HALF of that money and download their music from TPB (or wherever) for free? That approach rewards the artist MANY TIMES MORE than the brain-dead system you are supporting.

See where I'm getting at?

No citation needed. Anything between the artist (producer) and their fans (consumers) is a middleman. Any improvement in a system's efficiency specifically squeezes out middlemen.

I'm not saying that artists can or should directly interact with fans (there are many artists who simply can't), but the middleman environment changes significantly when the distribution of plastic discs is eliminated from the process.

Are you trying to indicate that the companies whose primary purpose is the distribution and sales of CDs are not powerful?

You've just set yourself up for a Catch-22 argument.

But there are a couple of things you need to take into account:

• currently the market atmosphere is pitted against the indie artists because "free music" is assumed to be "violating copyright"
• currently the general audience allows Big Media to dictate what they will listen to
• social media tools are just now becoming "mainstream"; the general population is just starting to get a handle on facebook, twitter, personal blogs
• "success" doesn't need to mean "triple platinum" (i.e. sales of plastic discs) or multi-millions of $$ in profits
• radio?

Success for most artists means being able to "earn a living" doing their art. It does not (necessarily) mean multiple houses on 4 different continents. When you think of a band becoming successful, don't think of bands that Big Media push...that's a formula that most artists, even "commercial artists", fail (possibly after 15 minutes of "success").

Then you haven't been paying attention. There are tons of stories of people having posts pulled, accounts disabled/deleted, etc. because of perceived copyright issues.

Many ISPs and platform providers would rather work against their own customers than face the possibility of working against RIAA lawyers. They won't take the time to determine who the real copyright holders are, much less expensive (and immediate) to just cut the account.

Sorry, but I believe your interpretation of events is myopic.

There have been attempts to make a vivid (and profitable) scene driven by file sharing. However, there are very powerful business (and political) forces that essentially get squeezed out of the scene once the artist is directly doing business with fans. They are the inefficiencies in the existing music models, and therefore they cannot allow "the new model" to take hold.

Reality is this: digital music costs NOTHING to copy and distribute. Therefore the price of a digital copy will eventually be zero. Laws and technology is being thrown at the situation trying to keep the genie in the bottle. But consumers now understand the cost of the goods they are buying.

So the music industry needs to find ways to leverage the benefits of FREE advertising being done by their fans who share music with their friends. Take that savings (the $$ artists would otherwise have to spend on advertising) and capitalize on it.

Opportunity is there. Someone is going to eventually seize it.

But the article focuses on "illegal file sharing". What the author completely misses is that the "recording industry" is not allowing the true power and freeness of digital music distribution/sharing. Any analysis today must take into account that most activity (especially TPB-type activity) is specifically "in violation of the copyright holders' (*IAA) desires".

So yes, the current activity is not conducive to indie labels specifically because the recording industry makes it clear that "P2P is piracy". People don't share music links in blogs/myspace/facebook/etc... because "it is wrong". Some copyright holders find themselves getting into trouble by sharing their content (e.g. YouTube taking down stuff that an artist themself put up).

The power of P2P is not in having "pirates" share music. It is allowing fans to freely share and promote artists. This is not something that can be done today without fear of retribution from an industry that doesn't care about facts or truths.

What is said (or not said) that you think this 1/2 hr video is unworthy of a watch? I think much of what Tim says is quite relevant. For people who fail to think of the larger picture w.r.t. large scale web app development, his insight is quite apropos.

You COMPLETELY missed what he said. He specifically said that "no one is asking for RIA...except for vendors and developers".

I actually take very few exceptions to what Tim has to say in that video. I believe he is bang on w.r.t. multi-core, REST, (lack of) RIA, the strength of HTTP and the lack of evidence supporting a need for push-based applications (i.e. the argument that poll-based doesn't scale is completely invalidated by the fact that it does as RSS, twitter, email and a host of other very large scale apps are poll-based).

No, the generally accepted meaning of "RIA" is the use of Flash, Silverlight or possibly Java:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_internet_application

Notice that CP80's "Get Involved" discussions page is 404?

You don't buy a company because of its products. You buy it for its innovation on top of those products, or for its customer base/brand, or for its finances, or for its resources (real estate, other assets, human capital).

This is very much not inline with my experiences. In most organizations I've been with, the "build master" is a FTE. The "server guy" is a FTE who maintains dev and QA machines (though may also maintain a few other corporate servers). The docs team spends a whack of time maintaining the documentation system. The bug tracking system is a load of garbage because no one is willing to spend time on maintaining it...so emails and/or spreadsheets and/or poorly implemented OSS tracking systems are used thus wasting time and resources because it cannot support a proper SDLC.

All of this is wasted resources. For the majority of companies, these should be commodity systems and thus could be outsourced to someone else to maintain.

Choice of outsourcing should be based on reducing resource cost on the development team, not on reducing the price. Development resources are worth WAY MORE than their hourly wages.

Sorry, should have been clearer in my examples. I specifically talked about outsourcing the INFRASTRUCTURE of the SDLC, not outsourcing the SDLC itself. The SDLC PROCESS *is* the business of at hand. Having a shop of developers maintaining backups, creating build systems/bug tracking, upgrading servers and version control systems, etc... is simply taking away from the process of creating software. Having other people worrying about keeping these turnkey systems running allows the developers to focus on servicing the customer base, not servicing themselves.