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Comment Author didn't even explain his own point. (Score 1) 686

It is silly to suggest that there are no easily-accessible programming languages shipped with computers today; most come with at least two or three (if you count the command interpreter and Javascript), many come with dozens. Anyone with the littlest initiative could obtain free assemblers, compilers or interpreters for dozens more, just by connecting to the Internet. This would have been an embarrassment of riches when I started tinkering with personal computers in the early 1980s. And these languages range from the trivial (e.g. old-style BASIC) to the inscruitable (ADA anyone?). The motivated individual can get as close to the hardware as (s)he wants, with assembler or Forth, or as abstracted as desired, with for example XSLT. What is missing is not a simple-to-use language, but rather a lingua franca: A language that virtually everyone the least bit interested in computers is familiar with and has a facility for running, and -- importantly -- may be used to implement just about anything that people are currently doing with computers.

Put this way, I think that everyone can see the problem and the reason why the author's goal is mere fantasy. Today, people just do too damned many things with computers, and there just is no single language that is appropriate for all those tasks. Moreover, I suspect that the number of kids, or possibly even the percentage of kids who are coding up useful stuff is comparable to, or likely greater than, the equivalent figures when he was copying BASIC programs out of textbooks. And if all he was doing was copying programs out of textbooks and running them, maybe changing a line here or there, such an activity would today just be a tremendous waste of time. Nobody hand-copies code anymore, they download it from the Internet, and I expect that number of kids doing this is huge compared to twenty years ago. The running it, and tinkering with it, still happens, one just gets to that point a whole lot quicker.

I will also say that, if the author thought that learning BASIC was equivalent to understanding what was under the hood of his computer, then he clearly was not around when people were building Altair kits, programming drum cards for an 029 keypunch, or wire-wrapping backplanes. Certainly his elders looked down on his generation of BASIC-writing dweebs as little more than coddled dilitantes who would never truely understand the technology.

I'm sorry, but you just can't go home again.

Debian

Journal Journal: So, About Dapper . . . 24

For the last year or so, I've been happily using Debian, with a mixture of sources so I was stable, but current, just like nearly everyone who uses Debian.

Then I tried to upgrade or something insane like that, using aptitude, and the whole thing went tits up on me. No amount of cussing, kicking things, or actual tinkering with the software could save my machine.

Announcements

Journal Journal: play poker for a good cause on sunday july 17th 6

(Cross-posted to WWdN)

The final table of the 2005 World Series of Poker started at 4pm yesterday afternoon, and wasn't finished until just after 7am today. I'm not sure, but I think that's a record. I'd call Pauly to be sure, but something tells me he's crashed out until at least Sunday.

Movies

Journal Journal: Starsky and Hutch 12

I just got back from Starsky and Hutch.

Surprisingly funny. I bet the DVD will be great.

Best part was how anyone in the theatre under 30 didn't get about 70% of the best jokes.

Now I'm hoping that they'll make a CHiPs movie. I wonder what other late 70s to early 80s TV shows would translate well into movies?

Oh, and if you're not watching TRIO every night, you're really missing out on some fantastic television.

Software

Journal Journal: Writing with Open Source tools 30

There's no "Ask Slashdot" topic available for user journals, but I am intrigued by this reader's question, and I thought it was worth a try to tap into the collective wisdom of Slashdot.

Hi Wil,

you mentioned some time ago in your blog that you did a presentation on writing your book(s) using open source tools. Have you posted these slides (or whatever the medium was) anywhere?

Games

Journal Journal: You made the top ten! 11

You made the top ten list!

No PointsName Hp [max]
1 20342 Morc-Mon-Hum-Mal-Law died in Sokoban on level 6 [max 9].
Killed by an owlbear. - [79]
2 15917 Morc-Mon-Hum-Mal-Law died in The Dungeons of Doom on level 12.
Killed by a xan. - [68]
3 4171 Morc-Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha died in The Dungeons of Doom on level 6.
Killed by a water elemental. - [59]

Comment Re:The sure did make a mess... (Score 1) 296

I LOVED Legos... I had those at home (as well as Lincoln Logs and "American Bricks") but Bristle Blocks... I had almost forgotten about those!!

When I was about 7 the elementary school I went to had Bristle Blocks in the library. Good Times!!! I used to make neat "robot dudes" and they would have battles and wars. (I was a weird little girl :)

Ok, that was about 25 years ago. I'm feeling old now. :*(
User Journal

Journal Journal: an intro, of sorts

Greetings! My name is Debra. I am a 33 year old geek woman, married to a 42 year old geek man :)
I am very annoyed by welfare, Fox TV execs and general morons. Yes, the morons are surrounding us.
Anyway, I thought I might try out this free thing called a journal! (gosh, I LOVE FREE)
More relevant rantings to come.

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