Comment Re:I agree with Lennart (Score 2) 551
Why would LibreOffice or GIMP ever be dependent on systemd? They have nothing to do with the startup or shutdown of the system - they are plain vanilla applications (same most likely goes for JBoss and KDE, though they may provide some 'system-like' services). Seriously, folks. It's just this kind of hyperbole from systemd haters that makes me think it must be good...
The root of the worry comes from the fact that the history of systemd's development is not "lets address this one thing" but rather "wouldn't it be great if?" Systemd doesn't adapt to or reuse other things as often as a lot of people are comfortable with: they displace syslog with journald because its better for them, because they now have control over logging rather than have to work with anyone else to get the features they want. The issues with Gnome are due to systemd saying "wouldn't it be great if" they could extend boot startup services to session start up services, which then gets you to login and window managers and so on. And while they assert - correctly - that *technically* speaking these things aren't dependent on systemd, its clear they are trying to displace the other things because they think they can do them better.
And maybe they can. The most pernicious thing about systemd is that in many respects, what they displace they improve on (at least to an extent): that's what makes it possible at all for them to expand the system. But its still unnerving to many. The answer to the question "why would LibreOffice ever be dependent on systemd" is "if systemd developers decide that they can offer a service to LibreOffice that would be beneficial, there doesn't seem to be anything in their dna that says maybe we should stay in our lane." Maybe one day systemd will want to act as a gateway to special network file services, or whatever. I can't imagine what that could be, but then again I never imagined that an init replacement would be replacing system logging and hooking into session startup. That's the problem: they've already defied expectations on how much reach systemd is intended to have.
Honestly, the gist I get from the interview itself is "if we think we can do it better, why not go for it." That's an understandable point of view, but its also very provocative to many in the open source community.