Comment Re:Damn... (Score 1) 494
Care to provide any proof for your fantasies?
I'm not here to hold your hand, I'm just honestly trying to clear up misinformation. *You* on the other hand seem to have prepared quotes, links and statements to promote you're rhetoric.... that's disturbing and makes me question your motivations, especially since you're coming off as so aggressive.
So that's a no on having any source to back up your claims. Even more, you seem to hold the fact I have actual sources to support my claims as proof I must be fabricating something? What's the deal man, check my sources and look for the truth for your own self. I am making an effort to lead you by the hand to the truth.
The statements of the JUI-F guy are disturbing but like you yourself said he was countered.
I'm glad you find his comments disturbing. Did you not read further on though where I noted the man that spoke against him was assassinated a year later?
LOL, do you have any idea how badly rigged those elections were? Do you really believe the people of Pakistan voted for those people? There's a *ton* of video evidence showing rigging. There were even mass protests in Pakistan almost a year ago demanding investigations, recounts and possibly new elections.
You don't seem to be familiar with Pakistan's political history. The so terribly rigged elections were also the very first time in the entirety of Pakistan's history that power of an elected government was NOT stripped by a military coup but legitimately was passed on to another civilian government, corrupt and fixed elections not withstanding.
Unlike you, I don't have prepared notes or links to counter every single point, because a) I don't have a raging hate on to drive me to hunt down points to no constructive purpose; b) it's just an argument that would go forever back and forth, point and counter point.
Maybe you should start getting some prepared notes before expounding in ignorance about what is best for a place you nothing about? I first got interested in Pakistan on reading two books, Benazir Bhutto's biography and 3 cups of tea by Greg Mortenson. They are both excellent primers on Pakistan from the eyes of two fantastic people working to help the Pakistani people. From there, I was hooked and have read many other books by people in the region and from all sides, including Pervez Musharaff's autobiography. It's interesting that my copy of Bhutto's biography was printed after her assassination, and includes in the appendix a letter she sent several friends before returning to Pakistan. In it she states in no uncertain terms that she expects to very likely die and that Musharaf is her top suspect for who will kill her. If you read Musharaff's own biography afterwards, he makes a compelling argument to support exactly that. Seeing as he ran the investigation, the lack of result speaks for itself.
I state how bleak the situation for moderates is in Pakistan because it is simply speaking, the unavoidable truth. The extreme spread and influence of multiple flavours of jihadist bent on killing moderate Pakistani Muslims is not a fact that can be ignored in seeking to assist. Point in fact, Drone strikes are killing jihadist leaders at a remarkable clip, and with far lower civilian deaths than any ground offensive the Pak Army can hope for. Support for that positive is part of my motivation for laying bear the hard truth. At the same time, Greg Mortenson is building schools in tribal Pakistan and by all means join those of us supporting him and his work too. Do not go misleading people though by giving a false image of the state of affairs in the country because that helps only those brutally exploiting and repressing our moderate allies suffering over there everyday.