Comment Re:Here we go again with the "Climate Deniers" (Score 1) 900
<quote>"Over and over, we read of hidden, manipulated, and cherry-picked data, refusals to abide with having outsiders vet their work, and allowing naked advocacy into the IPCC reports on climate change as if they were peer-reviewed science. "
No, we don't; you just made those things up.</quote>
He did not make them up. They are all well documented. Various inquiries have found that Mann and Jones and his colleagues at the CRU did cherry pick data, they did manipulate figures to hide declines in temperature. The inquiries, including by the NSF, then concluded that this was normal scientific practice so there was no problem. The IPCC bigwigs did appointed lots of mates to write sections of its reports, including things like the classic section on India where the information was cut and paste from WCF propaganda on ice melting that was discredited.
Of course the fact that a few scientists stupidly exaggerated stuff and fudged a few graphs doesn't change the fact that the planet is warming. What this and the lame attempts to cover-up this up and deny it did was simply to cause serious damage to the climate change activists' agenda. Which is what the article is about. They are trying to blame their failure to win the political argument on a lack of scientific knowledge. They want to make up a scientific argument so they can ride roughshod all over the messy business of democracy and people's rights.
The majority of the population has never understood science and never will. It doesn't matter. In the past that lead to blind acceptance of science as progress but it leads now to cynicism about science. And given the actions of pharmaceutical companies that is fairly easy to understand and sensible. It isn't science that is going to win elections but politics. They have to stop bothering about trying to silence their critics and just debate them and campaign for support.
No, we don't; you just made those things up.</quote>
He did not make them up. They are all well documented. Various inquiries have found that Mann and Jones and his colleagues at the CRU did cherry pick data, they did manipulate figures to hide declines in temperature. The inquiries, including by the NSF, then concluded that this was normal scientific practice so there was no problem. The IPCC bigwigs did appointed lots of mates to write sections of its reports, including things like the classic section on India where the information was cut and paste from WCF propaganda on ice melting that was discredited.
Of course the fact that a few scientists stupidly exaggerated stuff and fudged a few graphs doesn't change the fact that the planet is warming. What this and the lame attempts to cover-up this up and deny it did was simply to cause serious damage to the climate change activists' agenda. Which is what the article is about. They are trying to blame their failure to win the political argument on a lack of scientific knowledge. They want to make up a scientific argument so they can ride roughshod all over the messy business of democracy and people's rights.
The majority of the population has never understood science and never will. It doesn't matter. In the past that lead to blind acceptance of science as progress but it leads now to cynicism about science. And given the actions of pharmaceutical companies that is fairly easy to understand and sensible. It isn't science that is going to win elections but politics. They have to stop bothering about trying to silence their critics and just debate them and campaign for support.