Nokia manufactures and sells phones for every phone market and protocol and have delivered at least a third of the worlds mobile phones for years and years. These days they sell about 500 million phones a year. Their logistics, manufacturing and sub contracting is phenomenally successful compared to the competition and often operates on totally different scales.

There have been lots of news lately about Nokias problems but the tech blogs often forget to mention that financially they're not doing that bad -- In a technology manufacturing business any financial changes are just always radical so it's easy to make headlines like "Y/Y profit down 90%!". Many of these journalists forget to mention that the Nokia devices division profit is still calculated in billions: EUR 3-6 billion every year these past few years. 2010 will fit in that bracket as well.

So... In light of the above I'd like to ask you this: If Nokia in your opinion does not understand mobile phones, who does? I hope to see something more substantive than number of blog comments to back the argument up.

You forgte the humans do not have the task of "passing the Turing test" -- if you asked me to prepend everything with #, I'd probably ask "why would I do that?"

You are not in a position to look down on ACs, number 108.

I assure you I won't run that code.

How do you 'accidently' collect complete emails ? If you are looking for routers then you collect router information. Collecting the payload (data) has to be actually programmed in. So if I write code to collect router names - it would require extreme incompetence on the planning part to collect payload.

There is no "collecting the payload", they just dumped everything moving in the network to disk.

When you want to catch as much data points as you can while driving by, just dumping the data stream is the most effective way -- processing can happen later.

When Ireland no longer feels its JUST or RIGHT they will change their laws.

And how would they go about changing the law? I would assume that happens by public discussion about what is right -- exactly the thing that's happening here.

You just keep telling everyone we can't have this conversation, so it's a little confusing :)

Look, everyone agrees this is legal. Many are just saying it's not right -- not for people who claim to do no evil at least.

You are looking at the technical details of the tax evasion and concluded that it's perfectly legal, while others are stopping to think "that shouldn't be how it works..."

Sorry, I don't think I made outrageous claims that would require credentials... You were the one who originally implied that battery life, battery life and battery life are the important reasons for going with C2D. I just noted that a LV Core i7 uses less power than a C2D.

Spelling out my point: battery life is important, but that does not explain why they went with C2D.

If you want me to guess, I can do it though: Apple wanted to do a cheap laptop so they decided to go with worse battery life and less performance. I think this is just fine, by the way: Lenovo has some fine examples of the opposite choice in their X series but those are bloody expensive.

Most OEMs puth that inside the computer (a recovery partition), that's even more handy for 99.9% cases. The SSD/Flash price is probably the limiting factor for Apple so they decided to make lemonade out of lemons.

Tying those points together: C2D isn't very good at power management. A low voltage Core i7 is more powerful and uses less power.

There are probably quite a few linux users reading this thread, just thinking "how on earth did it take these guys so long?". A central repository is an excellent idea with lots of benefits for all kinds of users.

Also, I definitely don't see many people saying they "can't stand the idea", I see people being worried that Apple will screw it up.

I can close the lid of my laptop and it goes to sleep, open it and it wakes up. I don't have to write wpa-supplicant files by hand, worry about wireless drivers, or anything else. I can watch my DVDs, I can watch internet videos if I want to

Random (and especially cheap) hardware may still have problems, but seriously: buy good hardware and you get all that with linux -- at least that's my experience. My last three X-series Thinkpads have all done the above without any tweaking...

Don Marti tears the methodology and the point of the whole survey to pieces: http://zgp.org/~dmarti/business/hands-up-who-likes-me/

This sort of surveys may have value but used like this they're just embarrassing.

micro-USB will be a EU standard in January and it seems this is not just a dead-letter law: All major phone manufacturers have already agreed to go along. EU is a market of half a billion people so in practice this _will_ be a global standard, unless some other major market area starts to actively fight this by standardizing on something else.

Apple desktop OS worldwide usage share is growing quickly? That's interesting, if you have any data to back that up, please share.

I remember all the apple sites reporting on "30% growth in market share" earlier this year but when you try to look at the actual data, it doesn't seem to be anywhere to be found... If you have anything more reliable than fansite headlines about worldwide usage share changes, I'd like to see them.

Mini server pricing is a joke though. I was just in a Apple store and checked the price tag as I'd really like one. It was ~1200€ (that's about $1600). So yeah, you can get OS X server on low end hardware. You just need to pay high end price for it :)